January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

who never was. At his best, this guy wouldn't make a good heavyweight sparring
partner in the 60's or 70's. At his worst, he was indeed Mr. Jab and Grab aka
Mr. Borefest----somehow a Heavyweight champion who somehow lost to a couple
natural middleweights. What other heavyweight champion has that distinction?
No, he's not a bum, but a champion? Hardly, except for at a pitiful time in the
division. |
|5/2/05 04:34:22 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|One of Lennox Lewis's greatest fights
was his 2 rounds demolition of Donovan Ruddock. Ruddock was rated as the "n.1
contender " at the time, but Lewis destroyed him.What's amazing about
Toney is that he seems undestructable. I have never seen Giacomo hurt or in
danger in the ring; it seems like nobody can hurt him. Evandro "The real nut"
Camposanto hit him with terrible shots but Giacomo didn't even blink ! Tyson-
Toney would be an interesting fight ! The question would be: can Giacomo Toney
take Michele Tyson's best shots ? |
|5/3/05 12:02:20 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Massimo: I
don't believe Toney could absorb Tyson's best punches, even at Tysons advanced
age/deteriorating skills. However, who's to say weather Tyson could even LAND
his best punches on Toney? Toney would give him some awkward angels, tie him
up, probably move well---might frustrate Tyson. But I contend that if Tyson
landed a couple on him, Toney would be in trouble. Of course, I feel that if
somehow, someway, Cooney landed his best punches on Larry Holmes, he could have
hurt Holmes. But as we all know, Holmes superior boxing skills made it
impossible for Cooney to get untracked. |
|5/3/05 12:04:04 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Massimo: Add
to my post, I meant to say "whether" not "weather." Good old English!|
|5/3/05 01:26:00 PM|Massimo |Roma, amor||4||||10|Angelo-I gotta say that
you are probably right, but I am not totally sure...Heck, Michele Geraldo could
never hurt Camposanto in two fights... I know that Michele Geraldo can probably
hit even harder than Alessio Vinci, but Giacomo got a pretty chuvalian chin. One
thing is sure: Toney is not scared of anybody, but God (maybe). Since I think
Tyson is not God, Giacomo wouldn't be afraid of him; and if you are not afraid
of Michele, Michele gets sissy (it's Slang) and you can beat him.Don't
worry about your English, I find your English pretty good, you could probably
give me some lessons. I would need it a lot, as I write often in English on this
site, I listen to CNN and BBC, Family Ties etc. in English, but I have almost
never a chance of speaking English here in Paisaland.I think that in my
entire life I have spoken English for not more than half an hour (apart in High
School, when my Italo-American teacher Cellini from New Heaven, Connecticut
asked me questions). Anyway, "weather" does exist in English, it's a word often
used in forecast ( you know, it rains, it's sunny etc.).|
|5/3/05 02:40:21 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, in the
Cooney fight, Holmes did get hit with some hard punches but he was always
pulling away from them so Cooney never landed the short punches that would have
hurt Holmes. The shots he did land were long and they had less impact. The
only short left hooks Cooney landed were low, that smarts! (slang for Massimo,
meaning hurts).Toney does take a good punch, it would be interesting to
see how he handles punches from Vitali Klitschko, Tyson, up and coming Samuel
Peter, or David Tua.Tua is frustrating to watch as he has a huge punch
but he is a short heavyweight who seems to have picked up all of Tyson's bad
habits that a short heavyweight shouldn't do, like standing straight up and
loading up and throwing one punch at a time and not moving his head as he
pursues his opponents.Tua needs to take the short heavyweights brawlers
training course and watch and learn from the tapes of Marciano, Frazier, and
Tyson (at his best). Watching light heavyweight/cruisorweight Dwight Muhammed
Qawi, AKA Dwight Braxton, would also help Tua.|
|5/3/05 02:51:31 PM|Joey|Canada||aol.com||||10|That Holmes/Cooney fight was
actually quite a good one. Holmes I feel is an under-rated heavyweight champion.