January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

analytical ability; and a true understanding of the nature of boxing and boxing
history, that means fighter X was ducking fighter's Y and Z. That by no means is
true.In Fraziers case, when he was in his prime he fought the best
fighters available. When Joe started slipping his management made the best
matches available for Joe both in tems of money and in advancing his career,
which in Joe's case meant getting a title shot. Which he got with
Ali.Now let's take a look at Ali's career. On his way up he did not
fight the best fighters available. No way. As Ali has said many times, Ali
wanted to avoid fighting such fighters as Eddie Machen, Cleveland Williams,
Ernie Terrell, even George Chuvalo. Instead Ali talked his way into a title
fight with Liston by beating Doug Jones and Henry Cooper among others.
Now someone without analytical ability might say he ducked those fighters. Which
of course is not true. Ali with his charisma and predictions established himself
as the best money opponent around for Liston to fight. Surely there were more
deserving fighters available. But Ali realized a way to make himself more
valuable than the other contenders without ever fighting them. Hence, Ali had
the analytical ability to advance himself, without fighting the contenders who
stood in from of him. If I were to use the logic of some of the people on this
site (God forbid), then I would have to say that Ali ducked them.As a
result of the managerial skills of Frazier's management, Joe was able to leave
boxing in relatively good health. The main reason for this is because Joe's
management used prudence when Joe was no longer in his prime and put him in
matches that maximized Joes talents. They used guess what? Analytical ability.
In boxing that is called, SAVYNow sadly in Ali's case his management did
not use analytical ability in making Ali's matches. They were motivated soley by
money and nothing else. A quick look at Ali's career after his layoff: Frazier 3
times, Blue Lewis once, Norton 3 times, Shaver once, Bonevena once, Chuvalo
once,Foreman once, Holmes once, Berbic once. All these fighters had one thing in
common to varying degrees they were bangers, and they all took Ali into the late
rounds (except Foreman). Imagine the pounding his brain stem took. Is there any
surpise that before Ali's career was over, he was talking with slurred
speech.The point I am trying to make is that these Ali worshippers do
not realize what ingredients are necesssary when making boxing matches for
ranked fighters. If the did then they would not use the logic, "well if fighter
X avoided fighter's Y and Z, well then fighter X was ducking them." That is not
the case. If it was then Ali ducked Machen ,Williams, Folley, Terrell, Patterson
and when he did fight them some of them they were well past there
prime.If one wants to develop analytical ability regarding boxing, and
boxing history one has to be open to new ideas. |
|2/25/05 06:27:43 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|I agree
Forest, your arguments make sense to me but what can I do? I am tired of
pounding my head against the wall trying to change opinions of people who are
not going to change their opinions. So the best I can do regarding this subject
is to agree to diagree with some of the people on the board.|
|2/25/05 08:19:16 PM|Steve |N.J.COMCAST||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Massimo,WOW,
you are really a food snob!No wonder americans don't want to go to Europe
anymore. Kent,I am tired of hearing your bragging about your thick,dark
hair,Okay?I'm going bald and am proud of it.I'm planning to shave my head
soon so that teenage girls will still try to pick me up.Remember the movie,"Last
OF the Mohekins"{however you spell it,}with Daniel Day Lewis? Now that Mohawk
Indian villian with the Ranger haircut was definetly a badass!|
|2/26/05 05:16:06 AM|Kent|La Habra,, Ca ||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Steve, my
hair is starting to thin, if that is any consolation but I still have a lot to
go before I can be called bald. I like it that it is still dark, very little
gray as of yet.|
|2/26/05 06:06:41 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Steve-I don't travel that
much, I have only been to France, Switzerland, Germany, Repubblica Ceca and