January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

FrazierI is a great, great fight, and it was Ali himself who made Joe the
monster he was in that fight with his insults for Joe, who I respect a great
deal. Their third fight, though, to me, approaches the unbelievable. I've never
seen anything better in boxing. They were each so great , so opposite, so equal,
only Ali's height/reach made him barely better. I've read Mr. Farris' piece
also, as I'm sure a lot of Jerry fans have, good writing which I really enjoyed.
Happy Holidays.|
|12/29/02 06:37:03 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|In my opinion the Ali that beat
Williams was the greatest heavy ever followed by the Frazier that beat
Ali..followed by the Louis of the late thirties/early forties then the Tyson of
the late 80's.All superb !A fight I would have love to have seen was Quarry vs
Holyfield - that would have been a great one.|
|12/30/02 07:13:46 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Evren: Foreman
beat Frazier easily twice, but you still rate Joe higher? In my mind if A beats
B, than A is the better fighter. |
|12/30/02 01:36:30 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Was no where near the same man -
Frazier was never Smokin' Jo after March 1971 !|
|12/30/02 02:36:22 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Yes, I agree
that Frazier left part of his ability in the ring after Frazier/Ali one, but he
still had plenty to offer after this. The Frazier who beat Jerry overwhelmingly
in 1975 in Frazier/Quarry two and the Frazier of Frazier/Ali three would have
been hard to beat in any era by any fighter. Frazier was always a slow starter
and he got caught and hurt early in Frazier/Foreman one. He never recovered to
be a factor in the fight and Frazier was a shot fighter by the time of his
second fight with Foreman but I have to agree that Foreman should be rated
higher as he did beat Frazier where it counts, in the ring.|
|12/30/02 05:15:44 PM|Gerry Schultz|ohio||geraldschultz162@msn.com||||10|With
the risk of again drawing Evren's ire, I have to disagree regarding
Foreman/Frazier. Yes, George did pound him in the ring. But that is as much the
product of two immovable objects, one larger than the other, as anything. They
may as well have been sumo wrestlers. Ken Norton, to me, did a great job vs. an
older ,slower, fatter Ali. But no one I know gives Norton credit for being
better. Joe was fundementally a much better fighter than George, whose size and
strength was ahead of his time. This is also why I think Jerry matches better
with Foreman than Norton, who did not take a punch as well, or Joe, who fought
more poorly going backward. Yet, it's not accurate to say Jerry is better than
Joe/Ken just because of that matchup. In Frazier and Micheal Moorer, Foreman
found two champs who matched up poorly with him. I think Carl the Truth would
have given George fits if it had been him instead of Moorer, or Mr. Lewis as
well, the current champ. George had truly rare power, but to me he and Joe run
pretty equally. Joe overcame a lot to be the courageous and successful champ he
was. Don't let their fights fool you. And I don't think Foreman could ever have
beaten Ali.|
|12/30/02 05:46:32 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Good points Gerry - let's leave it
as Frazier may have done better if he was his 1971 model. Carl Williams would
have done well vs George untill the wind from one of George's hooks blew him out
the ring and shattered the crowd with China!|
|12/31/02 08:35:19 AM|Sonia Hathaway (Quarry)|Joshua Tree,
CA||Sonia81@aol.com||||10|Hey all wanted to say "HAPPY NEW YEAR" to all. We
hope you all keep coming back its great to see it still going. Dad & Uncle
Jerry, would love it. |
|12/31/02 10:43:38 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|In my book, Joe
Frazier was a very, very good, near great champ. You would have to look long and
hard to find a champ with Joe's guts-- and left hook. That being said, I
don't he would have beaten the Tyson of the 80's and to be honest, I don't know
how he would have done against Liston in his prime. I also think that Holmes
would have given him trouble and in my book that one is too close to call. But