January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Dumpty, et al).Even Frazier ridicules the credentials of Mathis and
Stander and Daniels and the others. So what does Kent do ? He says that it
doesn't matter because Frazier ridicules everyone. Frazier, like the Ring
Magazine, like me, like Howard C, like Angelo, are all misleading (according to
Kent). Kent doesn't believe any of us. I guess Kent doesn't want the truth.
Kent thinks that Mathis and Connors and Standers and Daniels and all those
others were killers. Whatever. Kent will believe what Kent wants to believe.
Forget the Ring Magazine and Frazier's own recollections. Doesn't matter. Listen
to Kent instead of them.Mathis wasn't in the WBA tournament because he
didn't deserve to be and wasn't ranked highly enough. Frazier chose to fight
him, not the highly ranked guys. Perhaps it was smart money wise, but that
doesn't detract from the FACT that he declined to enter the tournament to have
three TOUGH elimination fights in a row against guys like Bonavena (who knocked
Joe down twice and was unlucky to lose a disputed decision - hear that Pete ?)
and Quarry and Ellis. I don't doubt that he was better than them in one-off
bouts, but I do doubt how he would have stood up fighting them in quick
succession.Kent plays woulda, coulda, and shouldas. He demands that we
'deem' unfought fights to Joe. If you listen to Kent, monumental upsets like
Tyson and Douglas, Schmeling and Louis, Ali and Liston, Ali and Foreman, never,
ever happen.So let's 'deem' Joe all of the many tough fights he never
took and say that monumental upsets NEVER happen and Joe WOULDA beaten everyone
without raising a sweat. Joe even handpicked his opponent for the
New York State Title (the one recognized by only six states of America out of
the entire world). He chose Mathis because, as Joe admits, Mathis was easy.
Little wonder the New York Commission is in so much corruption trouble today
that no one respects it. Letting contenders chose their own opponents. I'm
surprised Bob Hope didn't get a shot. |
|10/13/05 05:46:45 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Kent, changing the subject, I went
to the Eastside Boxing site and read some of your stories and I was impressed.
When you get away from the Frazier topic you write with clarity and insight. I
enjoyed reading your stories. So let's get away from the Frazier thing before it
all boils over again. |
|10/13/05 09:27:11 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Thanks Noam,
I haven't been doing too much writing lately but am gearing up to be more
active.In fact, I have to make sure my media application is sent by
Friday for a card featuring former welterweight champion Vernon Forrest, so you
kind of reminded me to take care of this or I wouldn't be able to
attend.What is strange is when someone at a fight card will look at my
name tag and say, "oh, I have heard of you, I have read your stuff." It doesn't
happen very often, but every once in a while. I still am suprised when it
happens.|
|10/13/05 11:12:12 AM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|I've read some of your stuff
too, Kent, and it's good reading. I can see you're a fan. It must be cool to be
acknowledged in that sense, at least occasionally...Mr.Noam, guy, you've
made your arguement regarding Frazier and the NYSAC in stone. What else can
there be to say? I understand your point, I just don't agree with it. Is that
allowable? Why rant, what purpose does it serve? ... Some interesting stuff
about Don King this past week. First, Rahman has declared bankruptcy coming into
his fight with Klitschko.King wants half of his purse and is suing
Rahman.Second, Chris Byrd complained that King is preventing him from
fights. Byrd and Toney are tentatively set for late January, I guess.Isn't
it something that this guy King, who began sharking fighters in the early 70s,
is still shaping careers, usually in a negative sense, more than 30 years later?
...Jimmy D, the Quarryologist. Always good to see your posts. I think Ring
Magazine owes you a research grant ...Lastly, I thought it was very cool for
Jonathan Quarry to put up a post. I remain a very big fan of the family, and one
of the best things here by far is that they occasionally post. Good luck to you,