January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

a brave fighter and that is why he took the Liston fights against Cus' wishes.
Anyway, anybody who steps into the ring is not a coward, even if only in the
context of keeping his title.Any fight can be dangerous. Recently I was
at a fight card which saw a former national golden gloves champion named Travis
Walker in his third pro fight and his opponent, who's name escapes me a the
moment, had a pro record of about 3-15, O BY KO, as compared to Walker's of
course, unbeaten record of 2-0, 2 by KO going into the four round prelimanary
fight. Anyway, the opponent knocked down Walker twice in the second round and
the bell saved Walker, who had also knocked down the other fighter in that
round, a great round nobody else will ever see as it likely was not taped.
Walker came out a little unsteady for the third but by mid round he was OK. The
two fighters traded hard for the remainder of the fight and Walker barely came
away with a split decision win, which the crowed booed as they were siding with
the underdog. My point being, this opponent with his lousy record, came
to fight and although he was supposed to lose against this former amatuer star,
he gave the favored fighter a fight to remind him not to take anyone lightly.
Any fight is dangerous. |
|1/6/05 01:09:22 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|KENT: I respect
you and your opinion very much but nothing will ever make me change my mind
about Patterson. If he did not want to fight heavyweights, he should have stayed
in the light heavies. It was he who was champion not Cus. My rough definition
of champion is somebody who is the best in the world and willing to prove it
against the rest of the best. from time to time. Floyed failed that test.
Until the day he died, Cleve Williams was a bitter man and why shouldn't he be?
Dempsey caught hell for not fighting Wills for racial reasons, but just because
both Williams and Patterson were black, Williams is a forgotten man today. In
reality, they both got jobbed out of a chance to see what they could do.|
|1/6/05 01:18:50 PM|Massimo|Roma (means Rome)||who can stop Shaq ?.com||||10|I
was thinking that probably Cus D'Amato was of Italian ancestry. D' Amato is an
Italian surname. And Cus was a honest person !!!!! He wasnot in the mob
!!!!!!!!!Eureka !!!! Evviva !!!!! Wow !!!!! Cool as hell !!! It is possible
to be an honest personeven being of Italian ancestry. Tonight there is
Lazio-Roma on TV. Paolo Di Canio vs Francesco Totti... Who is gonna win ?|
|1/6/05 02:02:36 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I agree with
John to the extent that Floyd was a big boy and to our knowledge, wasn't Cus'
robot. If he wanted to take a Williams fight, it would have been done. I don't
like when athletes hide behind their agent or in the case of a boxer, a trainer,
manager or promoter. Let's face it, trainers work for the fighter, and if Floyd
wanted to fight Liston sooner, or Williams, he could have said "Cus, I value
your opinion and I trust you, but I've got to take this fight. Don't try to
talk me out of it, just try to help me win it cause I'm fighting Williams/Liston
with or without your blessing." Apparently, that wasn't said. Also, I
understand that especially back then, the fighters were intimidated by the
business side of it and did what they were told, but Floyd still had some free
will and was definitely part of the process that kept him away from guys who
could take his head off. |
|1/6/05 02:45:48 PM|charles|ark.||ctjjandfam@aol.co||||10|floyd was way to
polished a boxer to have any trouble with the "big cat". ali gave him a
shot,granted he may have shot as a fighter at the time. did sonny ko williams, i
think he did. i would liked to have seen ingo fight liston, although sonny would
likely ko him, ingo had a terrific right.|
|1/6/05 02:49:28 PM|charles |ark,||ctjjandfam@aol.com||||10|also, i think cus
got real close to his fighters and was more of a father figure than a trainer
and did want them to get hurt. who did he train besides patterson and tyson?
thanks|
|1/6/05 02:50:54 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Cleve would have knocked
Floyd Patterson out in the late 50's early 60's. Floyd avoided Cleve at all