January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

efore the Liston jab took over. Shavers was not in the same class as Liston.
Liston was, for the most part fundamentally sound. He lacked some defensive
skills but during his prime years much like Foreman, he really didn't need them!
Shavers was a bomber pure and simple. At the time of the JQ fight Ernie had
little or no defensive skill, and his chin and stamina were suspect. He did
develop enough defensive polish to be competitive with Ali and Holmes two of the
few men who could withstand his power and come back. Jerry was much too skilled
for Shavers when they fought. The same would not be true vs. Liston. |
|7/30/04 01:21:17 PM|Forest Ward|NYC||NYC.COM||||10|Liston would have stopped
Jerry Quarry in the 3rd round. Quarry lacked the defensive skills to avoid
Listons heavier punches, and Quarry was too stationary. It would be no contest.
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|7/30/04 02:07:13 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Liston would have
TKO’d JQ inside of five rounds, prime vs. prime. Unlike Lyle and Shavers Liston
was a pretty good boxer with a hard and persistent left jab. And he could hit
with both hands. And against a hitter like Cleve Williams, he proved he could
take a punch (at least when he wanted to).Liston was much more skilled than Lyle
or Shavers who were both very inexperienced when they fought JQ. |
|7/30/04 03:19:32 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I agree,
and like I said, I see Liston beating JQ on cuts, probably around the sixth or
seventh round. But the only reason I brought up the Lyle fight was that at his
best, Quarry was a very focused counter puncher and good boxer. Don't sell Lyle
short---he had plenty of real world fight experience when he stepped in against
JQ, was the favorite, and Jerry gave him a boxing lesson. No, I don't think JQ
could accomplish this against Liston, but I put it out there as at least a
remote possibility. I have Liston-Wepner on tape (grainy and hard to watch,
with no sound). Even at that advanced stage in his career, Liston could fight.
In his prime, he was brutal. But believe me, Jerry wouldn't fold against Liston
like Patterson did. JQ didn't seem intimidated by anyone---was courageous to a
fault. I think this would rattle Liston for a while, before his ram-rod left
opened the eye cuts that would end it. |
|7/30/04 04:14:28 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Funny how
every once in while someone pops in here and says the regulars here are biased
in favor of Jerry, that we overrate him in the long term scheme of things. Not
that anyone is doing it here but the next time someone accuses us of bias
towards Jerry, I will point out that to a person, everyone who commented on a
prime verses prime Sonny Liston verses Jerry Quarry fight, agreed that Jerry
could not have beaten Liston. Some of us may think an in prime Jerry could have
beaten an older version of Liston, late in Sonny's career, but that is not the
same as the best Sonny verses the best Jerry. I think the Quarry fans can be
quite objective in their assesment of Jerry's skills.|
|7/30/04 04:33:43 PM|Mike|Philly||Yammagamma300||||10|I know i'm out numbered,
But I still have to go with Jerry, Ali was not suppose to knock out liston, and
I think Jerry would stop Liston.|
|7/30/04 08:07:36 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10| Good points by all on Quarry-
Liston. Jerry's lack of movement cost him against Frazier, you can't stay in
front of sluggers like these, Ali knew that. But JQ would confuse Sonny for a
few rounds or so with his unearthly toughness and counterpunching. It would go
5-6 high-action rounds ( not lazy Ali rounds ) and end bloody for Quarry, no
KO. But JQ would win Sonny's respect... Any thoughts on the upcoming Olympic
boxers? |
|7/30/04 08:17:23 PM|Greg Schasser|Canton, OH||saving up for it||||10|Just got
to say again, this is a cool site. I don't know much about Henry Cooper, just
that he was a good Brit heavyweight who got mangled by Ali. I guess he had to be
good to get there. Also, I din't realize Eddie Machen had been so good, I guess
he had a belt for awhile? Jerry Quarry was all heart and high skill, but too
small for Sonny Liston. I do think Quarry was better than Patterson, who Liston