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speech and demeanour. He presented as a guy who has given up on himself and who
is only one bad night away from necking himself.Frankly, I felt really
sorry for him. The guy has wasted so much talent, money, and opportunity. It's
all behind him and his future is bleak. Perhaps he has one more victory in the
ring left in him, but he has little else to look forward to.I wonder
whether it would have ended differently had Tyson had a strong manager like Cus
controlling him throughout his entire career. Instead he got Don King. Is that
where it went bad for him ? I think yes.|
|1/19/05 01:36:56 AM|Tyrone Washington|Mobile, AL||TyTy||||10|Hello Angelo. I
believe Earnie Shavers is originally from Garland, AL. That's about 150 miles
northeast of Mobile. Good Day, TY|
|1/19/05 07:41:35 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Tyrone:
Yes, that sounds familiar. And I think in the mid-late 70's Shavers was
fighting out of Warren, Ohio.Noam: It's hard to have sympathy for Tyson.
He might be one case where as a 40 year old underdog, he's actually unpopular
instead of a sentimental favorite. I love watching Roger Clemens pitch, enjoyed
Michael Jordan's comeback---it's great to see the older guys get in there and
compete, like Foreman did. But with Tyson, he's older, but not more mature.
You get the feeling that if he somehow gets back to the top of the mountain, he
won't have learned anything from scraping the bottom and he'll blow it again.
It would be nice if he mellows out in his personal life and fires it up as a
boxer again. Imagine if he did have Cus or other strong management all these
years. He was a talented destroyer. If he had the right training in the ring,
and good advice out of it, he would have been a guy who could have improved
instead of declining and would have finished his career with a huge amount of
money in the bank, probably a record similar to Foreman's (I still don't think
Tyson would have been undefeated.) and a measure of popularity too. |
|1/19/05 08:42:29 AM|Massimo |Los Angeles||4||||10|Angelo-Tyson has been
a great fighter for 3 weeks when he had Cus d' Odiato as his trainer. With Cus
in his corner even a bum would have won the heavyweight title. THE FEAR IS LIKE
THE FIRE, that's all you need to know about boxing. Seriously speaking, I also
think that with Cus in the corner Tyson would have becomen one of the greatest
heavyweights in boxing history. You can never know, but I don't think that he
would have lost with Douglas if he had had Cus to remind him that the fear is
like the fire, Tommy.|
|1/19/05 10:18:27 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|MassimoWith Cus in Tyson's
corner the entire career, Tyson would certainly have been more focused and
disciplined. He would have ended up rich and respected and
liked.Personally, I think Douglas was primed to beat almost anyone that
fateful night. He had nothing to lose after the recent death of his mother and
it was probably the only occasion in his whole life that he gave it everything
he had.Douglas also had the tools. He not only had a significant size
advantage, but that great jab of his kept Tyson at bay. Douglas also threw some
great combinations. It was probably the first time Tyson fought someone who
wasn't intimidated. To me, I don't think Tyson fought so badly that
night; it was just that Douglas had nothing to lose and he chanced his arm. |
|1/20/05 01:29:01 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Tyson would
have had a somewhat better chance to stay out of trouble if Cus didn't die so
early in Tyson's career. But it was no guarentee that Tyson wouldn't have ended
up exactly as he did. His out of the ring problems and mindset inhibiting his
great natural talent. Tyson was a raw thug from the hood and sometimes
you can't take the hood out of a hood. Teddy Atlas was fired as Tyson's
trainer for alledgedly pulling a gun at Tyson. The story goes that Tyson had
made inapproiate moves toward's Atlas' sister and Atlas threatened to kill Tyson
for doing so.Atlas was already at odds with Tyson and Cus for insisting
Tyson obey the same rules everyone else at Cus' facility but Cus, knowing that
Tyson was a special talent, let Tyson get away with breaking a lot of the