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don't think he means any harm. Howard C's comments on Jimmy Ellis are a comic
farce, parody, sarcasm about Jimmy Ellis in 1975, when he was a young man still
fighting---he isn't making fun of a retired fighter with a degenerative brain
condition or other lasting health problems from his time in the ring. The joke
is that Ellis was not a "live" fighter in 1975 and yet Frazier's camp picked on
him, of all people (not Shavers, not Young, not Lyle, not anybody who had won in
their last four fights) but no, it was Jimmy Ellis. It's such an extreme
comment to say a coroner was chasing Ellis around with a toe tag---it's just a
joke, nothing to take seriously or get upset about. Again, we're talking about
a 1975 Jimmy Ellis who was handpicked to be whipped by Frazier, not a 2005
suffering Jimmy Ellis.|
|3/22/05 01:33:32 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|By the way,
do we even have any reliable, confirmed reports about Ellis' current condition,
or is this all hearsay?|
|3/22/05 01:50:15 PM|Forest Ward|New York
City||raymccormack2003@yahoo.com||||10|Fan, I am your #1 fan. I always look
forward to reading your posts. They are always sound and reasonable. But,I must
disagree with you regarding Ali Worshipper #2.Worshipper #2, constantly
insults people on this site, especially Kent. Worshipper #2 will apologize
before he attacks Kent. And then in the next sentence heep scorn upon Kent. I
don't buy that routine. First he apologizes, and then he delivers the insult.
That's shallow and insincere. No apologies from me. I find Ali worshipper#2 to
have limited boxing knowledge,and no analytical ability. And that is what
separates the ignorant from the enlightened.Angelo, I spoke to someone
who met Jimmy Ellis at the Boxing HOF, and he is sufferring.|
|3/22/05 02:36:20 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Thanks for
the 'praise' Dead Parrot # 1. When I know that I've upset you, I also know that
I hit the mark with my comments.You are the 'hit and run' guy. Every so
often you visit, make a few negative and insulting remarks, back one guy against
the other, and then, like a coward running off into the night, you disappear
again. Regarding your boxing knowledge, Dead Parrot # 1. You're the guy
saying that it's a world title fight if it's sanctioned by MSG or the New York
State Boxing Commission. Now that we've established your lack of credentials, I
can move on.KentMy comments were satirical, just like the Monty
Python shows some of us were laughing about. That brand of humour takes a
subject, stretches it to its most ridiculous limits, and exposes the likely
truth by doing it. Its a brand of humour some people, for whatever
reasons, don't understand, and I guess you don't.By twisting it to make
it appear that I am ridiculing brain damaged boxers, which I would never do, you
are preciously trying to turn opinion your way SIMPLY BECAUSE YOUR OTHER
ARGUMENTS WEREN'T CUTTING IT ON THE FACTS.By the way, Kent. All of us
here probably give money to charities. I certainly do. Why is it that you
continually feel the need to tell us about what you give ? A month or two ago
you made a big deal about donating money to a former boxer's funeral. Now you
tell us you are donating some more money somewhere else. It's better to give in
silence, Kent, like most of us do. After all, self praise is not praise at all.
Bringing the topic of donations up was completely against the flow. |
|3/22/05 03:40:21 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|There is
another of Dead Parrot # 1's barbs that I should address.Dead parrot
accused me of using a tactic of offering praise for Kent and then immediately
attacking him. Dead parrot doesn't tell me what such a tactic is supposed to
achieve. (Maybe it's a good cop, bad cop, thing in dead parrot's mind, I don't
know.)Any praise I offer Kent is sincere, and so are the critical
remarks. I think being capable of offering both, when warranted, is called being
fair and balanced. I also happen to think that Kent is undoubtedly a very decent
and kind hearted man who, in my opinion, makes fatuous remarks when discussing
his favourite fighter (Frazier).And when those fatuous remarks places