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trivia of when the last scheduled 20 round heavyweight title fight took place.
But I've got another one. When was the last world title bout (of any weight) to
go more than 15 rounds ?Re Holmes. I'd also pick Holmes to beat Foreman.
Holmes showed he could handle big punchers by stopping Shavers in 11 rounds and
his boxing skills were certainly superior to Foreman's. Holmes was also a smart
fighter like Ali and could adapt to anything Foreman put on.Don't forget
that Holmes had something like 20 successful defenses of his title, while
Foreman had just three. I think Holmes would withstand Foreman's full-on attack
over the first six rounds before taking charge. George would fall over from
exhaustion about round 9, in my opinion. |
|9/14/05 04:48:32 PM|Gerry|Don Kingstown, OH||jerjets11@yahoo.com||||10|There's
alot you can say about Larry Holmes.Fought in four decades, master boxer,
very good guy, good champion.He's not top three in my book. I'd put him on
par with Frazier, just inside the top ten or just outside.Don King cleaned
out the division for him by ruining the careers of Witherspoon, Page, Tucker et
all. Foreman, who would have knocked him out, was also gone.Holmes did not
turn pro until age 24, but did beat some decent second-tier heavies on the way
to Shavers. His performance against Shavers in their first fight was hardly
dominating, but on the basis of this win alone, he was matched withNorton, a
champ no one wanted, for the title in his very next fight.I scored that
fight for Norton, but it was a popularity test with King in charge. I will
say this, he did beat guys I'd heard of during his reign. But to say that they
were top-tier opponents or that his wins were dominating is a good stretch, in
my book.Shavers and Witherspoon were decent wins. Cooney boxed very well
with him for most of their fight.He was plain knocked out by Snipes, was
dominated by Williams.Sorry guys, not Top Three stuff.Spinks was very
good when they met, and he did beat Mercer, so he clearly was way above
most.But given the reigns of Tunney, Marciano, Liston, Tyson before jail,
Lewis, Jack Johnson, and Jefferies, I can't call him that high no matter how
easy to like he is.Trained in Cleveland by Richie Giachetti and occasionally
seen about town. I would have liked to have seen him arrive about 5-6 years
earlier.Then we'd see how good he was. Thanks.|
|9/14/05 06:03:24 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|Wasn't Jess Willard vs. Jack
Johnson the last title fight of ridiculous length?That's my guess to the
question. Thanks.|
|9/14/05 06:21:27 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|Sorry, not to be posting to
much here...Thanks Massimo for the heads-up on Brewster's title opponent. He
sounds like he'll be around for a while.Brewster, though, has improved,
based on his last fight. Sounds like a pretty good match, at least as they go
these days. Thanks again.|
|9/15/05 02:29:36 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Noam, That trivia
question about the last 20 round heavyweight fight wasn'nt mine, sorry. I do
remember where Max Baer was scheduled to fight 20 rounds (before he was champ)in
the early 1930's. But thats not much to go on.Its hard to find anything
bad to say about Larry Holmes. He never cut, never was intimidated, recovered
very quickly when hurt and best of all had a telephone pole jab. He also beat an
in prime Ray Mercer when Larry was in his 40's. Plus as a 50 something beat
Butterbean in 10 rounds.|
|9/15/05 03:53:28 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Sorry Ed, I knew it was either you or
Pete and I picked the wrong guy. Did you know who the referee was in the
Fitzsimmons v Sharkey fight ? It was Wyatt Earp. He pulled a gun on Fitz to put
an end to the protests.I find it hard to say a bad word about Holmes. He
did it all. It's difficult to compare him with Frazier as Gerry has done. Larry
successfully defended his title some 20 times. Frazier only four times. Larry
had longevity in spades; Joe didn't.Larry faced and beat ever contender
of his era; Joe didn't. Larry didn't shy from big punchers (Shavers) and guys
with a great left hook like Joe had didn't worry him too much (Cooney). Larry