January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

"The Bruce knockdown doesn't count because Joe was before prime." And, "The
second Foreman fight doesn't count because Joe was after prime." And, "The six
knockdowns don't all count because the ref should have stopped it after the
third knockdown." And, "Joe didn't fight Norton because he liked him too much."
And (my favourite), "Ellis had one more great fight left in him and he was a
perfect tune up for Joe." And, "Stander and Daniels were perfect tune downs for
Joe.So Fan, how do you deal with that delusional mindset ? Just ignore
it and let the Dead Parroters rewrite their own silly version of history
?The Dead Parroters refuse to let Joe's record speak for itself. They
keep making excuses for the deficiences everyone else can see.
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|3/20/05 09:32:37 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|I don't know about any
parrots. Whoever they are they can defend their own opinions. Joe was great
for a short period of time, he never ducked Earnie Shavers. He could have
fought Lyle, he didn't. Norton wanted no part of him, he was more adament about
it then Joe. He fought some stiffs, all champs did. He's a top 10 heavy of
all-time. Ali was better, not by much prime vs prime, but better. Joe's
biggest weakness was his short prime. He was never the same after Ali I. He
always had a layer of fat and was never as sharp. He left it all to beat Ali
that night, and he did.|
|3/20/05 09:39:51 PM|Kent|same||same||||10|OK Howard, you got me, sort of. I
met to say Dead Parrots socieity but I did understand the analogoy and it does
fit your stuborness of not accepting any possibilities but your own opinions.|
|3/21/05 01:33:46 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Kent, you
need to take things less seriously. Trying to have a sense of humour would help,
too.Fan, I can't have Joe in the top 10 for reasons that have been
canvassed way too many times. At least you don't come up with the looney excuses
that the Dead Parroters invent.You guys can have the last say, if you'd
like, because the lemon on this issue has been squeezed dry. A pleasure, I'm
sure.|
|3/21/05 02:44:59 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|I don't know about parrots, but I do
know that the Schrodinger's cat was neither dead nor alive; its own state was a
combination of the "DEAD STATE" with the "ALIVE STATE". Maybe it's the same with
parrots and with Joe Frazier as well. |
|3/21/05 11:12:47 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fan:
Saying "(Frazier) could have fought Lyle, but didn't"----what does that mean?
Of course he could have fought him. I'm asserting that he SHOULD HAVE fought
him. It's why "he didn't" that makes this discussion so intriquing. Now, a
little prose dialogue of my own, taking place in 1975 on the plane to
Melbourne:Joe: "Yank, why is this trip taking so long? Last time it was
just a few hours and now we've been in the air 14 hours."Yank: "Joe, this
isn't a train to New York or a plane to Las Vegas---we're going to Austrailia
buddy!"Joe: "Why?"Yank: "Well, news gets their slow. They just heard
that Ellis won that WBA tournament---so they actually believe he has a chance to
beat you. They haven't gotten the news yet that he's washed up."Joe:
"Gotcha. He's butter, pudding, but they don't know that. I'll spot him a few
rounds to make it interesting."Yank: "Easy does it Joe, you're no spring
chicken. Get in there and get the job done." |
|3/21/05 11:18:14 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|By 1975 I think Yank had
already died. |
|3/21/05 11:55:33 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Gotcha ? I didn't know that one. I
knew gotta but not gotcha. Ah now I see ! It's like "watcha gonna do brother ?".
So I think "gotcha" means " got are". I have something to learn about the
American Slang yet ! Gotcha...I like it !!!!!!!|
|3/21/05 12:48:03 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Fran says
that by 1975 Yank had already died. For all intents and purposes, so had Ellis.
Frazier nearly, too. And Stander. Daniels also.Perhaps Joe hired a