January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

ut it might have progressed a lot slower, and possibly not have become evident
until Ali was well on in years.Ali's brother Rachman the last I heard
was homeless and living in his car in Louisville. Some years ago after a
sparring sessions with Muhammad, Rachman complained of head pains and was
hospitalized and then released. But he was never allowed to box again. The
story goes that Ali always felt guilty about that. |
|12/6/03 01:09:31 AM|Evan B.|Belfast||evanb46@aol.com||||10|Most of you
experienced readers who actually did a little fighting or training know that a
punch doesn't have to be powerful to hurt or to knock an opponent out. What's
more important is placement of your punch, especially in regard to knockouts.
What you want to do is hit an area of the opponent's head or face where a nerve
ending or its circuitry to a brain center will be momentarily compressed, in
effect turning much or all of the brain off for a moment, something like a light
switch. If the compression is long or deep enough, there is enough loss of
consciousness for a KO or full 10-count. One or your earlier posters called
these perfectly-placed punches "snap punches". They can indeed be "arm punches",
and do not have to be powerful, bludgeoning blows. Alexis Arguello was a master
of the snap punch, and hardly ever seemed to throw really hard punches, but
still became a champion. This type of punch from Ali brought down Liston in
their second fight. Sonny got clipped perfectly and went down. Heavy,
bludgeoning blows, unless they're right on the button, do hurt a fighter but
seldom know a man out, unless several land in quick succession. is this
right, Kent, Steve, Paul, Jimmy, Koko?Now regarding the way Ali "trained
getting hit"L he did not allow his sparring partners to knock him out or bang on
him until he was finished. What he did was dare to accept a little more
punishment than most champions sparring, so as to familiarize himself with
fighting hurt, not showing it, and learning to keep some of his wits about him
in this situation. It worked, too. Regarding the loose ropes and all the
funny business in Kinsasha, Zaire: isn't it the responsibility of a fighter's
manager and trainer to make sure all that stuff is acceptable, or refuse to
fight? Why didn't Foreman's people raise a stink? Were they threatened not to?
Did they try and get ignored? Regarding the allegation of Ali's dirty
tactics: isn't this every man for himself? Either fight or shut up. I fought a
guy in the amateurs once who used just about every foul you can think of, but
only once. The referee was mad at him but did not stop the fight or disqualify
him. Besides, as Paul (I think) pointed out, there are thousands of ways to
shade an outcome, semi-cheat,or get away with fighting dirty. When I fought in
LA, a lot of the black guys had their hair freshly cut to just a stubble, and
after just a few rounds, their fairer-skinned opponents would have arms,
shoulders and sometimes faces scraped raw. Lots of white guys used the same
tactic -- including Jerry Q, I think -- by coming into the round with a 5 o'
clock shadow. That's more gamesmanship than cheating. Ali was not the only
hombre who held, clinched, leaned on your neck, etc. |
|12/6/03 02:22:21 AM|KOOKOO|NY||KOOKOOCLOCK000@YAHOO.COM||||10|YES, THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE BROUGHT UPA WHILE BACK ON HERE. THE BODY IS FULL OF
PRESSUREPOINTS, IF ONE HAPPENS TO GET HIT JUST RIGHT , IT WILLKNOCK THEM
OUT. THIS IS MUCH HARDER TO DO WITH A GLOVE ON, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OFF THE
GLOVES , YOU’DFIND FIGHTERS GETTING KILLED IN THERE, ANYTIME A
FIGHTERGETS IN THE RING HIS LIFE IS ON THE LINE, I KNOW THEY DON’TLOOK
AT IT THIS WAY BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUNG AND FEEL INDESTRUCTABLE, BUT THAT IS
THE REALITY OF THE GAME, BECAUSEIN THE FINAL ANALYSIS, THE GAME IS NO GAME
AT ALL|
|12/6/03 03:23:45 AM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|Your
right, it is no game and the fighters are the last to lean that, if they ever do
at all.Going back to the Ali-Williams fight. Howard Cosell rose to fame
and fortune on Ali's coat tails, and brain cells. I ask, why did it take
Cosell; 16 years almost to the day to realize whata horrible "sport" boxing is.