January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

from Fandom, 2002 was a good period for posters here.Guess what? Mr.
Jimmy agreed with me that it was more likely people avoided Joe Frazier than the
other way around. Even though Joe beat Jimmy's brother twice. Jimmy knew what
he was talking about and he is a key missing piece around here.|
|7/29/05 01:29:10 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Fan: your
posts are very hard to read and I think you are unreasonable. Examples ? Your
treatment of highly respected writer Thomas Hauser and his books.You say
you've read his books. Which ones. What was so bad about them that he qualified
for your condemning him as biased. But let's forget personalities. Argue
the ball, not the man. Hauser's logic is that fighters are judged by the hard
fights they've won, not the easy fights they've won. Hauser then asked, take
away Ali (and Foreman) from Frasier's career, and what have you got ?I
gave you the chance to answer this before. You didn't. Neither did Kent, the
budding journalist who wants to write about Frasier. So, come on guys, leaving
Ali and Foreman out, tell me from 1 to 10 Frasier's greatest fights. It
should be easy. Like me, you guys come from that era. But just remember, you
can't use the Thrilla In Manilla. Let's see if Weekend at Bernie's (Frasier v
Ellis 2) makes your list.|
|7/29/05 01:36:58 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisvlle||||10|Hey Kent, you
shouldn't verbal dead man. It's so childish, trying to win an argument by
verballing dead man and it's loser stuff that let's everyone know you're beaten
in your own mind. Besides, Joe Louis told me that Frasier is a ducker. Mathis
and did too. And when I spoke to Mr Jimmy he told me that Frasier WAS a
ducker. The biggest one he'd ever seen. So there.Anyway Kent. Tell me
Frasier's 10 greatest fights, leaving Ali and Foreman out. Thanks. |
|7/29/05 01:37:47 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Mass,Thanks
for the kind words. Yes i agree with you, Lennox Lewis is a very underrated
fighter. He only lost 2 times in about 14 years! Plus Tyson in his good years
wanted nothing to do with him and neither did Riddick Bowe...and that says a
lot.|
|7/29/05 03:24:24 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Which do youse guys think
are Ali's 5 greatest fights ? Thanks. |
|7/29/05 04:07:57 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Howard - what Hauser actually said
was that Ali apart, what were the best and hardest wins of Frazier's career.
Massimo, what say you on that ? I think this way:1) Ellis 1 (Jimmy was
competent and clever, but it was a toy title without the real glamour, seeing
that it had been stripped from Ali). 2) Mathis (Frazier says that Buster
couldn't fight and that he was a soft guy, but in terms of importance it
probably has to be here).3) Quarry 1 (a genuine tough guy)4) Bonavena 2
(Joe managed to get through it without the two knockdowns scare of the first
fight).5) Stander (don't blame me, Joe chose Stander for a title defense).
6) Daniels (ditto). 7) Zyglewyz ('dogmeat' sure, but this was Joe's
choice once he was on top of the heavyweight world. Joe wouldn't have picked him
if he wasn't tough, right ?).8) Quarry 29) Chuvalo (better than Doyle,
Jones, Davis, and Johnson, and at least he actually existed, unlike the
Invisible Man, Marion Conners).10 Ellis 2 (Weekend at Bernie's)Come
on, Kent and Fan, argue the merits. What say you guys were Frazier's best and
hardest wins, leaving Ali out.(PS. Kent - frankly, I'm very disappointed
in you and Fan. I quoted a well respected writer of 26 books, widely acclaimed
by newspapers and the Ring Magazine, and nominated for prestigious awards. And
in response you quote a dead guy.You guys aren't debating facts. Kent,
your only arguement has been that you go to lots of fights and that you are a
boxing journalist (but you don't say that you are a non-paid contributor to an
internet website where they run volunteer stories. Ask a PROFESSIONAL journalist
Kent: quoting dead guys makes you look unprofessional, shonky, and probably
dishonest.And Fan. You keep saying that you can't tell us who you really
are, and that there are very good reasons why you can't tell us who you are but