January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

said it best regarding what a trainer can and cannot do "I can'tgive a guy
starch, he's gotta be born with it." Dan, I have a tape of Foreman vs. Cooney
and I would be happy to mail itto you for free if you were to email me your
mailing address. If you didn't see it, you really should. I agree that nine out
of tentimes, Quarry would have beaten Chuvalo, but the fact, not suppostion,
is that they only met once and George ko'd him. I agree it was fluky, but
just scoring a legitimate knock down (as even Quarry admiited it was) over a
rugged guy like Jerry is in my mind for more of an accomplishment than anything
Cooney ever did in his entire career. |
|7/11/03 01:49:29 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|I have to hand Mr.Dan C.His due on one
thing!He really does stick by a fighter he believes in,As I have had to do
growing up in Quarry-Country,Gerry Cooney was in the major leagues of course,And
I believe the real apprasil of a bout with COONEY/Chuvalo,IS that Cooney was a
pitcher and Chuvalo a catcher!And would have been one of the "better"
heavyweight encounters!|
|7/11/03 01:49:51 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|I have to hand Mr.Dan C.His due on one
thing!He really does stick by a fighter he believes in,As I have had to do
growing up in Quarry-Country,Gerry Cooney was in the major leagues of course,And
I believe the real apprasil of a bout with COONEY/Chuvalo,IS that Cooney was a
pitcher and Chuvalo a catcher!And would have been one of the "better"
heavyweight encounters!|
|7/11/03 02:32:52 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|We can look at
Cooney two ways. Either he was a flawed fighter who was protected by managment
who knew his flaws, or he was a fighter who relly had the potential to go far
but was mismanaged. I tend to think Cooney had some talent but his
flaws would have eventually overshadowed his talents, regardless of how he was
handled. One thing most people would agree with is he did have one powerful
left hook and he was one punch away from victory in any fight.I
certainly think he was better than Duane Bobick and Primo Canrera. But he was
not better than our Jerry.I do think that although Holmes had some other
fights that were as tough or tougher than his defense agaisnt Cooney, the ones
that stand out the most happened when Holmes was at his very best, the time
period between 1978 to 1982 and Cooney's fight with Holmes was during that
period.Saying Cooney had one good fight, his valiant losing effort
against Holmes, does not diminish Holmes' standing as an all time great any more
than Buster Douglas' victory over Mike Tyson diminshes Tyson's standing. Tyson
still is ranked higher than Douglas in any all time ranking and even if Cooney
had pulled off an upset over Holmes, Holmes would most likely still be rated
higher than Cooney in such rankings. Yes, Cooney and Douglas could never
duplicate their one good fight again but those fights still happened. |
|7/11/03 02:43:18 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z2yahoo.com||||10|I agree, Cooney
was better than Duane Bobick, but I don’t think he was better than Tommy
Morrison. Although Morrison admitted to using steroids, so I am sure how to
factor that into the evaluation.|
|7/11/03 09:25:31 PM|TF|Santa Clara||tedfish2@hotmail.com||||10|Hey, does anyone
remember the middleweight Mike Nixon who fought in the 70's. I remember when I
was bored, I used to watch the fights on the tube. Most of the fighters were
pretty boring, but one night Mike Nixon was fighting. Jesus, was that guy good.
I remember the first fight I watched with him in it, both fighters looked like
they were being cautious and measuring each other when - faster than you could
believe - Nixon fired a combination that caught the other guy completely
unawares. The other guy toppled over backwards, and that was pretty much the end
of the fight. I saw Nixon on the tube several times after that, and his hand
speed was so much faster than any of his opponents that I was positive that
nobody would ever be able to beat him. Eventually, he was apparently beaten by