January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

his way and he wanted to prove they could win without him. But there is no way
someone like Wilt Chamberlain should not have been in the game if he was able to
go back in with the championship on the line.|
|6/22/05 11:37:22 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Kent-I think this coach was
a bad ass and a nut at the same time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|6/22/05 02:50:02 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: Do you remember
when Scottie Pippen decided not to go in because the coach didn't call his
number to try the game winning shot? What a baby. The idea was that the
opponent EXPECTED Pippen to get the ball, so by giving it to Tony Kukoch, the
element of surprise would be on the Bulls side. Instead, Pippen sulked and sat
out. Kukoch still made the shot and the Bulls won, taking Pippen off the hook.
If you ask me, I would have cut his ass after that. |
|6/22/05 04:40:41 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|What a
selfish player Pippen was. What if Kukoc wasn't open? Then the Bulls would
have needed other options. A good team player would have realized the play made
sense. Sure Pippen wanted to take the shot but most of the time the better
coaches like Phil Jackson know what has the best chance of
working.Jackson himself came from the old school, he played for the New
York Knicks under coach Red Holtzmen. They were a lot like the Celtics of the
1960s as everything was for the team and they were quite succesful at it,
winning a couple of championships and they were at or near the finals every
year.Sorry boxing fans but we have some long time basketballs fans here
and every once in a while we drift that way.|
|6/22/05 05:00:57 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Kent-Talking about Wilt is
never a waste of time! Wilt was Wilt, all the rest is in the shadow...|
|6/23/05 01:11:24 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Hi everyone. I have been away from a
computer for weeks and that's why I haven't emailed. Steve - I picked
Tzysu over Hatton, and I also thought Tyson would beat whats-his-name. How
stupid am I.While off-line, I read a book by Thomas Hauser titled Brutal
Artistry and at page 99 he wrote,"Joe Frazier doesn't get it. For
starters, he doesn't understand that, without Ali, his own career wouldn't have
been as remarkable as it was. Joe was a great fighter. However, fighters are
judged, not by bouts that are easy, but by bouts that are hard. Frazier won the
heavyweight championship in pieces by beating Buster Mathis and Jimmy Ellis
(both of whom lost to Muhammad). After he beat Ali (which was when Joe truly
became champion), his only successful title defences were against Terry Daniels
and Ron Stander. Then he got knocked out by George Foreman, who knocked him out
a second time three years later. Take away the three Ali-Frazier fights, two of
which were won by Ali, and what have you got ?"I personally think that
if Ali was not in Frazier's resume, that Joe's career would be thought of in
terms of a Jersey Joe Walcott or similar.|
|6/23/05 08:38:56 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Noam: In
defense of Frazier, you also have Joe's wins against Jerry Quarry. He beat a
quicker, young JQ and then an older/more powerful JQ who was on an impressive
winning streak. Add to that, Joe's first win over Jimmy Ellis, who was a slick
boxer. Frazier KOed him impressively (The second win over Ellis was
meaningless, as Ellis had only won one of his last six fights and the rematch
with Frazier was ridiculous for both fighters.). Hauser might have been better
served to do what WE do: Talk about the Frazier fights that for some reason,
NEVER HAPPENED---the list of power punching contenders of the 60's and 70's who
are missing from his resume. But Hauser's real point is well taken---doesn't
Frazier understand that without Ali, he would be a somewhat forgotten athlete,
known only to boxing purists? Because of Ali, Frazier is a well known ATHLETE
and an icon of his era---known to sports fans in general and not just boxing
fans. Ali made Frazier richer and better known and yet Frazier has this odd
resentment. The insults that sold tickets---even the hurtful ones? Joe, it was
only words, and it was 35 years ago. Get over it.|