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an undestractable (spelling) chin later in his career, but when he was very
young he was actually vulnerable. Cooper and Banks knocked him down (not two all
time greats) and little Doug Jones almost knocked him down in that first round
as well. |
|7/30/05 05:37:17 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Massimo, some very good observations
regarding Ali. His jaw seemed a little vulnerable early on, probably right up to
the first Cooper fight.After then his jaw did seem almost indestructible
and perhaps it resulted from his training. We've commented before here that Ali
allowed himself to be hit hard in training so that he could experience the
feeling of being nearly knocked out and would therefore know how to react.
Whatever it was, however, he could certainly take the punches.And
Massimo, regarding Frazier. Given his reaction to the very hard punching
Foreman, no one could ever be certain how Joe would have reacted to other very
hard punchers who he never fought.We can't 'deem' Joe fights he never
had. When people say Frazier would have beaten Lyle, Shavers, Mac Foster, or
whoever, they should think about a few upset fights, namely, among others, Tyson
and Douglas, Louis and Schmelling, Ali and Norton, Ali and Spinks, and Frazier
and Foreman (# 1). Nothing can be taken for granted, especially a fight
involving a vulnerable jaw and a big hitter.Hey Fan, where are you ? I
thought you were going to give us a review on the three Hauser books you say
you've got. I wonder whether you are buying time and down at the library trying
to find them. |
|7/30/05 06:12:47 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|I own the following Hauser
books. Muhammad Ali in Perspective, Muhammad Ali His Life and Times and The
Lost Legacy of Muhammad Ali. Lost Legacy is basically a Thomas Hauser love fest
to Muhammad Ali. Noam please read this book and reply. His Life and Times is a
good read. Perspective asserts that Ali might be the most loved man in the
world. It's safe to say Hauser and Ali were fast friends as they spent
thousands of hours together and Hauser remarks about his respects and admiration
for Ali. It's safe to say he wouldn't be Frazier's biggest fan.|
|7/30/05 06:51:58 PM|Italian Stallion|Philly||Unknown||||10|Never read no Ali
books. Where we are from we burned books to keep warm in the winter. One time
there was a huge snowdrift outside the Spectrum. I hear a dude yelling and me
and my buddies went over there. The dude is sitting in the snow covered in
blood. I says What the **** happened to you. He said he yelled at Bernard and
Bernard beat his ass. That's street cred. When you watch Bernard your watching
a real warrior who earned his stripes in the streets. The man owns Philly and
no one punks him.|
|7/30/05 07:02:38 PM|Ivan Drago|Moscow, Russia||Drago.com||||10|Don't listen to
Stallion, I was national hero til he came along.He get lucky once twenty
years ago, lucky punches after I picked him up like rag doll and beat em to
bloody pulp whole fight.Then everyone, my people, chant his
name.HE THINK PHILLY IS TOUGH. HE AND BERNARD NO LAST ONE HOUR IN
MOSCOW STREETS!|
|7/30/05 09:09:09 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Thanks, Fan, but instead of just
making the accusation, please provide some accompanying quotes and facts as to
why Mr Hauser is biased. At the moment you make the stark accusation but furnish
no proof.I must also indicate to you that your prior accusation of bias
against Hauser makes no sense as it is flawed in logic. Hauser said that Ali
renounced the 'white men are devil' statement in 1984.You tried to
discredit what Hauser said by saying that Hauser is biased. Well, Fan, bias has
no place in this issue. Either Ali renounced in 1984 or Hauser lied by stating
that he did. It's about honesty, not bias.So, if you chose not to
believe Hauser on that issue, you have to accuse him of lying. Not bias. Not
loving Ali. But brazenly publishing a lie to the boxing world !The other
thing I can't understand is that although you obviously don't like Hauser and
consider him biased and a liar and unreliable, you would have us believe that