January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

point forward, Tyson's edge has been pretty much gone. Before Douglas, Razor
Ruddock wouldn't have fared well against Tyson. After Douglas though, Ruddock
thought, why not me? And he almost won too. Holyfield, Lewis, Williams,
McBride---the list goes on and on. When everyone in the schoolyard sees the
bully get his ass whipped, suddenly he's not so scarey anymore. I wonder if
Tyson will fight again? |
|6/13/05 09:45:37 AM|Joey|Canada||aol||||10|Well I see that everyone is eager to
slam MIKE TYSON.Let's not overlook the fact that MIKE is way past his
prime(16 or 17 years?) and he was at one time a real powerhouse, a great
entertainer and I feel, one of the great heavyweights of modern times. He
destroyed so many fighters back in the 80's(Holmes, Frazier, Williams, Berbick,
Thomas, just to name a few)by way of knockout that he did seem invincible to
most boxing fans.Fighters deteriorate, some quickly, some not so quickly,
but they all go down ultimately, and sometimes not so graciously(ALI, FRAZIER,
LISTON, FOREMAN, LOUIS, QUARRY, TYSON, just to name a few).If your head is
not there, you won't succeed and MIKE has not been in the game psychologically
for quite some time. This coupled with the fact that he is pushing 40 is what
contributed to his ultimate demise. There aren't many heavyweights who got
out in time but they all deserve some recognition and applause for the great
moments they gave all of us in the ring.|
|6/13/05 09:46:55 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|You know,
it occurs to me that someone like Ron Cramner (in his prime, whatever that
means) could take today's Tyson. How sad. |
|6/13/05 10:53:51 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ed, Tyson
landed some hard body shots but most of the shots to the head he landed were not
the short powerful punches that take people out. It is not that it
seemed his power was gone against McBride, it is he didn't seem to have the
timing anymore to land the short shots to the head against a much taller
opponent, 6'6." Not having the timing likely was age and ring rust catching up
to him.McBride did a lot of holding and hitting in the clinches and
leaning on Tyson, the weight advantage wore Tyson out. While I don't
condone Tyson fouling, using the arm bar and the head butts, the referee
continually let McBride get away with holding and hitting.But like I
said in the earlier post, I had McBride slightly ahead because of the point
deduction for the head butting. Two of the judges had Tyson slightly ahead, by
one or two points, while the third judge favored McBride.My point is
that Tyson's loss was mainly mental because what fighter quits in a close fight
that he could likely win if he just sucks it up and guts it out?Tyson
admitted to not having the desire or the stomach to fight anymore.Ironic
in that the one thing that had kept Tyson centered mentally before, boxing, will
not be a part of his life anymore but he may have actually finally found peace
with himself. I hope this is the case|
|6/13/05 01:42:12 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Joey: It's
not that I'm eager to slam Tyson, but exactly what makes him an all-time great?
Was it the impressive KO win over Marvis Frazier? Was it the one round KO over
terrified Cruiserweight Mike Spinks? The four round knockout over lightly
trained and heavily aged Larry Holmes? Beating Trevor Berbick? Beating Robin
Givens? The "greatness" we all saw early in Mike's career was really promise
and potential, not greatness. Greatness is born when someone is challenged and
overcomes the challenge, or is so great that they're never challenged and never
lose. Instead, you have a guy who was a powerhouse who walked over questionable
competition to build his resume. He did have some great and impressive wins.
But when Douglas stood up to him, he crumbled. After that, Ruddock gave him all
he could handle. Beyond that, Holyfield was superior. Beyond Holyfield,
there's no reason to document it all. Lots of losses against the good, the bad
and maybe the ugly too. Tyson was a POTENTIAL great. So was Greg Page. So was
Tim Witherspoon. That's about where I rate him, with that group. |