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that he went. Yes, ali bravely fights his illness just as Lance armstrong has
bravely fought his cancer. Lance Armstrong Now, here is a person that everyone
should say is, "THE GREATEST". Remember, stay out of trouble, also, when you
hear all those jokes and other things that people say about New Jeresy just
remember, it's okay, because there all true as hell. see ya!!!!! |
|7/14/05 08:24:02 PM|Les.|N.J.||N/A||||10|So, Hows everybody doin??. I just
thought that i would leave all of you with this little tid-bit. How bout the
"Bayonne Bleeder" hey!,another Jersey guy, who would you like to have covering
your back in an all-out (Dark Alley) fight, Wapner or CANDY ASS
Ali??????.....Later!! |
|7/14/05 08:39:17 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Les: Ali made some
mistakes when he was younger. Most of us have. I will tell you though, that he
was assured that he would NOT see anything resembling front line duty in
Vietnam. It would have been a piece of cake assignment for him. A tour of
duty, a couple years away, and if he even went to Vietnam, which isn't a given
by any means, he would have been kept out of harm's way, boxing exhibitions and
generally being used as a tool to boost morale. Had I been Muhammad Ali, I
would have honored my duty to my country, and I would have gone into the
military. Alas, he isn't me. He had strong convictions against the war, based
on social beliefs and religious beliefs. He opted out, was banned from fighting
for three years (his best three years as an athlete by the way). He returned to
lose to Frazier and then Norton, but we all know that he came back after that,
held the title a few years and certainly did more for his sport than anyone else
I can think of.On Leroy Jones, no way he was a bad version of Mathis. The
record simply doesn't reflect it. That's nonsense. He was well above guys like
Clarke, Kirkman, etc. This guy earned a title shot, was undefeated, and beat a
future Champion in Mike Weaver. He suffered the loss to Holmes and packed it
in. He's underrated---still had a lot to prove. But to think Frazier would
walk through him, I think, is a bad miscalculation. It's true that he didn't
have a big punch, and that's why I think the fight would be very tough for
Jones, as Frazier tended to get stronger and braver as the fight wore on. But
make no mistake---Jones stiff, quick jab, huge size advantage and air tight
defensive skills would give Frazier fits. Keep in mind, Larry Holmes penetrated
Jones with a boxing arsenal that Frazier simply didn't have. Holmes used his
own piston left jab and quickness to undo Jones---Frazier was more of a worker
bee who would have to take a lot of punishment to land on Jones. He was much
wilder than Holmes---as Kent has said, his style shortened his career. Jones
could stick and move like Ali did. Close, but I think he'd have a chance to
win. |
|7/14/05 08:43:12 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Les: I'd have Wepner
cover my back anytime! That guy is as tough as they come. Did you see his loss
to Liston? He didn't back down! By the way, my brother met Wepner way back in
the 70s or early 80's, in a bar, I think in Atlantic City. Wepner was
apparently a really great guy to the fans---very patient, talked boxing, gave
everyone his time and attention. He's a regular Jersey guy! |
|7/14/05 09:06:34 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|The
comparison between Buster Mathis and Leroy Jones is a good one. Both were not
great fighters but they were good fighters. Both were big heavyset guys
who were surprisingly fast of hand and foot and both were not exceptional
punchers.Jones lost to a great fighter in Holmes and he had to retire
early because of eye problems while Mathis had a good win over George Chuvalo
and he only lost four fights in his career, to Ali, Frazier, Quarry, and Lyle.
No shame in this as all four were from very good to great
fighters.Comparing Jones' NABF title to Frazier's first title recognized
by NYSAC, five other states, Mexico, and parts of South America is nonsense.
Anybody who was following boxing at the time or who has done an extensive study
of boxing history knows this as Frazier's title at least rivaled Ellis' WBA