January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

team was winning the championship, was at the peak of its shape, had great
players such as Bruno Conti, Paulo Roberto Falcao, Roberto Pruzzo and Toninho
Cerezo and lost to Lecce that was the worst team in the league at the time. |
|12/15/04 05:28:27 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ed, I think
the win over Sharkey was legitimate as far as Sharkey not taking a dive. If you
look at the knockout punch, it looks for like a right uppercut that is more of a
forearm than a punch but the referee didn't call an illegal punch so Carnera
wins. The flow of the Sharkey two fight as I remember it, I have it on tape but
I have to hunt down the tape, is that Sharkey did have a lead at the time of a
knockout but it was competitive. Sharkey seemed to be fighting hard and as in
Ali/Liston one, why would a fighter who was going to take a dive, fight hard?
I have never seen Carnera verses Sharkey one that Sharkey won by
decision and I have heard it described as being one sided but maybe it wasn't
because Baer/Carnera is described as being one sided and except for the rounds
when Carnera was knocked down, the first, the, second and of course the last
11th round, the fight was close with Carnera actually winning at least four of
the other rounds.I agree with Massimo's assesement of Baer and Carnera
that Baer had little skills just power and that Carnera had better boxing
skills, a good left jab and the ability to throw accurate cominations. Also as
Massimo points out, Carnera did better against Joe Louis than Baer did. Carnera
did get knocked out in the sixth round by Louis but there were some rounds that
he was competitve in and a fighter would have to have decent skills to give at
least some trouble to Louis.I think history is revisiting Carnera's
career and he will be recognized for being a good fighter but not a great one
below the level of Baer, Sharkey, and Schmeling on the all time list but still
deserving to be called a champion.By the way, Baer's power was so
dominant when he could land cleanly that he has to ranked fairly high, higher
than the other three of his era that I mentioned.I think Carnera |
|12/15/04 06:38:01 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Kent-I have a beautiful book
about(or on) Carnera written by his two sons: Umberto and Giovanna Maria
Carnera. Its title is: " My father, Primo Carnera". In this book there is
written that the first Sharkey-Carnera fight in 1931 was pretty one-sided, as
Carnera was knocked down twice in the fourth round and managed to win only a
couple of rounds but you have to know that Primo had had a serious car accident
just a few hours before the fight in which he fainted. Now it's obvious that
when he did step into the ring he wasn't in brillant shape ! It is also a false
legend that Carnera couldn't take a punch ! When he fought George Godfrey, in
1930, George hit him with several hard rights to the head and Carnera didn't go
down. And George Godfrey was one of the hardest punchers of the 30's. Just
before the knockout punch in round 6, Sharkey hit Carnera with a hard right,
Primo was probably stunned, but didn't go down. Joe Louis hit Carnera with
terrible shots for five rounds but Primo didn't go down.|
|12/15/04 07:30:12 AM|John
Gerard|rock289z@yahoo.com||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Joe Louis said that up until
he met Marciano, Max Bear hit him the hardest shot he ever took -- but I believe
it came after the bell. Louis said his fight aganst Bear was his best
performance ever. I think I read he threw something like 258 punches and 255
landed.|
|12/15/04 12:09:54 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@fandom.com||||10|The best fighter ever to
not win the title was Jerry Quarry. I remmeber him beating up on the likes of
Ronny Lyle and Ernie Shavers back in the 70's. If he would have beaten Jimmy
Ellis then he would be remembered better. Jimmy was a good fighter, but not in
Jerry's class. My favorite fighter ever was either Jerry or Marvin Hagler.
Both those guys could whip some you know what. Hagler destroyed Worm Monroe I
remember that knockout still.|
|12/15/04 02:32:00 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fan:We
remember those Quarry wins well, and I'll agree with Mr. George Foreman when he