January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

effective. It's different if you break the little bones behind the knuckles.
They never grow back over stronger and hence cause you more problems. |
|7/26/05 08:22:24 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam, when
you keep posting inaccurate information and then writing it off as being
unimportant as if we think you should be right just because it isn't a big deal
that the statistics or qoutes you use are not completely right.But how
can anyone prove a point if he often misquotes stats or misqoutes
someone?Once again, I posted George "Scrap Iron" Johnson was one of the
toughest fighters from his time, not all time as all time is too long of a
period to claim and you misquoted me a second time.Does it change your
arguments? No, in this case not much but it makes me wonder what else you are
getting wrong.The reason I wondered if you have seen live boxing is
because you would see journeymen fighters like Scrap Iron battling it out and
losing rounds, even most of the rounds in the fight, to headlining fighters but
often not by much, maybe a few telling punches, but the blood, sweat, and guts
are very real, much more than on television and the loser of a round in most
cases does land hard shots himself.I figured a veteran fan such as
yourself would have more respect for the journeyman than you seem to
have.Steve, lets not give Ol Scarp Iron too much credit as he was never
anything close to a top twenty fighter but he was one tough cookie and no one
can take that from him.Once again I am not a journalist here, just
relaxing. I do think in the near future I will submit an article to Eastside
Boxing about Frazier's place in history and it would be interesting to see what
the fans think about Frazier, they can write in and instantly make comments on
the subject the articles are about.|
|7/26/05 09:02:05 AM|Kamala|Uganda||doyouremember@legends.com||||10|Kent-
I think both Noam's and Angelo's comments will be very short (or brief,
I mean "breve", "succinto",
"lapidario"):...OOOOOOHHHHHHH....OOOHHHHHH.....OOOOOOHHHH...SUSPENSE......IT'S
ALMOST TIME...NOW IT'S TIME:QUACK,QUACK!!!!|
|7/26/05 09:59:20 AM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|This place has gotten a
little weird lately. However I do have some tape of old Scrap and I will say
this for him, he was game. He was tough, took on all comers and his record
reads like a who's who of heavyweight boxing. Was he a good fighter? No,
however if he was managed differently he could have had a good record. When you
fight the guys he fights consistently you lose fights.|
|7/26/05 10:03:33 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: In
fairness, you should mention in your article that there are people who question
Frazier's place in history---and refute our arguments. It could be a sort of
point/counterpoint. All joking aside, it really is fascinating stuff. I think
a lot of us here are knowledgable fight fans and it is very interesting how
polarizing this argument is. It really goes to show that reasonable people can
have opposite points of view (and I think) do a good job of arguing their
positions. For me, it isn't all personal issues with Frazier---it's that I
think it always comes back to his "shutting Ali up" claim. It bugs me that one
win, one fifteen round decision against a guy who had been away too long, waives
Frazier into the all time greats category. Aside from that win, he lost the
rest of his fights to the two best guys he was matched against, Ali and Foreman.
His best wins were over Quarry twice and the first Ellis win. He looked bad
winning some other fights and looked good against stiffs and washed up fighters.
By my own acknowledgement, Frazier's close to the Top Ten of all-time
heavyweights, at or about #10, which is pretty good. I've never questioned his
courage or heart, and I've always said that his management is more responsible
for the contenders missed on his record---that Frazier would have fought
ANYBODY, but that his management steered him away from dangerous punchers after
Foreman beat him.|
|7/26/05 10:38:20 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Angelo, I think Frazier's second win