January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|5/25/04 07:44:06 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|If you ever saw the
fights Live that Jerry had against Foster, Lyle, Shavers in which he won, or
against Chuvalo who he was taking apart, or outpunching Frazier in the first
fight or Getting under Ali's jab in the first fight then you knew that Jerry had
the science down and could beat anyone. The ability and skills were there. As
far as Lewis goes that would be a very tough fight for him but on his best night
(Lyle, Shavers, Foster)I'd bet the house every time on Jerry. I always bet on
him. Lewis was the best in his time but with no chin he would not have been in
the top 10 back in the early to mid 70's. Those guys could bang and Lewis would
have gotten a chincheck. To be great you have to have a chin. Holmes would have
beaten Lewis. Holmes would get rocked but not put to sleep like Lewis. Sleeping
on the job does not get you in with the all time greats. |
|5/25/04 07:52:24 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|As far as Klitchko and
most of the Russians go they are amatuers still even though they are fighting at
the level they are at in the pro's. They throw arm punches and still run out of
gas. I feel sorry for them because when they meet up with a seasoned pro like
Toney or the guy that just wore out Wladimar they are destroyed. Back in
the Jerry's era amatuers never got to that level and if they did it was only for
one fight. All you have to do to beat those guys is be there when they run out
of gas. Read a newspaper between rounds and smoke a cigar. |
|5/25/04 07:57:50 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fran: I
agree. And to take it a step further, the ability to get off the canvas after
being dropped (see Holmes vs. Shavers II and Holmes vs. Snipes) is what made
Holmes a great Champion, while Lewis (no go against McCall, no go against
Rahman) was simply a good, steady Champion of his time, but not an all-time
great. Like I posted a few days back, Roy Jones not showing the ability to
continue against Tarver makes many doubt him. In the Washington Times, a
columnist mentioned the Holmes-Shavers bout and Holmes recollection of it. A
little voice told him that Shavers was about to take his title and that he had
to fight Shavers off or lose his crown. When things are going well, a talented
guy like Lennox Lewis, with his great size and skills, will look unbeatable.
It's when the going gets tough that you separate the greats from the "very
goods." And I'm not making the ability to take a punch and get up from it the
end all/be all---a lot more goes into a good fighter. But I think it gets to
the heart of an all-time great when they're rocked and can get up and continue.
You know, on a smaller scale, you have to be impressed with the Jimmy Young-
George Foreman bout. Young was clobbered in the 7th round. To this day, I
don't know how he did it, but somehow he cleared the cobwebs and actually
started hitting Foreman with crisp punches at the end of the round. Foreman was
such an amazing finisher---the fact that Young survived was amazing. Does it
make Jimmy Young an alltime great? No, because something else was missing in
Young---and that was the dedication to training and showing up ready to fight
every time---another element of a champion. Ossie Ocasio was the only thing
between Jimmy Young and Larry Holmes (and a shot at Holmes' title) and Young let
Ocasio eat his lunch! What a shame, because I think a Young-Holmes title bout
would have been fascinating to watch. |
|5/25/04 10:18:45 AM|Kent|La Haba, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|I would have
to say Lewis would beat Jerry, probably by decision, although that long jab
might slice up and cut Jerry's tender skin.Realize most of the time
Lewis at his best was good at avoiding the bombs that could test his somewhat
weak chin. Remember, Lewis has often been put down for not getting in and
mixing it up with fighters such as David Tua, who punches hard but Lewis pitched
a shutout from long range. The syle of caution first may have been boring to
watch but it worked. The knockout losses to McCall and Rahman were
almost lucky punches as Lewis beats those two guys nine times out of
ten.I just can't see Jerry getting inside of Lewis' long jab. Of course
Jerry was much stronger than the average 200 pounder and he did have enough