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you'be kept buying his books. Not once. Not twice. but THREE times. If I<br />

don't like an author after the first book, I don't bother buying his books<br />

again. I'd venture that everyone bar you Fan are the same.What was it<br />

that Lincoln said ? You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of<br />

the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the<br />

time. Fan's trying to prove Abe wrong. |<br />

|7/31/05 12:20:33 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Mass'You<br />

mention Sonny Banks knocking down Ali. Did you know the poor fellow died after<br />

a bout with Leotis Martin? I think Banks was 24 or so. Leotis was the fighter<br />

that lost to Jimmy Ellis in the elimination tourney in late 1960's. Martin also<br />

knocked out Sonny Liston for several minutes in a live TV bout back then too. I<br />

think Martin had to retire because of detached retina shortly later.P S<br />

the knocked downs of Ali by Banks and Cooper weren't the same...<strong>The</strong> Banks knock<br />

down was a flash knock down, the Knock down by Cooper was a real damageing shot<br />

and Ali didnt know where he was even when he was sitting on his stool for<br />

awhile.|<br />

|7/31/05 03:21:43 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Ed-I knew Sonny Banks died in<br />

the ring at 24 after a war with Leotis Martin; one of the many tragedies in the<br />

ring. Rino Tommasi, the Italian Howard Cossell thinks that "it's true that many<br />

people dies for boxing, but boxing saves even a bigger number of persons from<br />

the streets". I don't know if this is true, it's a difficult issue, but maybe<br />

it's worth a riflessione.|<br />

|7/31/05 03:28:17 AM|Ciro Bonocore|Napoli, viva Ammaradona,<br />

eh!||www.SanGennaro.com||||10|Don't listen to the Stallion and to Ivano Drago,<br />

they both wouldn't last 10 minutes in Napoli's street. A Napoli te scippano u<br />

core, aggi capito guaglio' ! (Napolitan Slang). |<br />

|7/31/05 04:45:44 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Steve: as I<br />

get older I'm getting crankier, and as my hiatus hernia plays up more, I get<br />

crankier still more, and one of the symptoms of the medication I take when my<br />

hiatus hernia plays up makes me even MORE crankier. You would be safe in<br />

assuming that my hiatus hernia was playing up immediately before the post that<br />

seems to have attracted your attention.Massimo: all of Ali's knockdowns<br />

were flash knockdowns. He got up quickly and recovered quickly (with the<br />

exception of the Cooper one). And think about this....I think I'm right in<br />

saying that Ali never got knocked down again after the one against Frasier in<br />

fight one 1971. That's right, he fought Frasier twice more, Foreman, Norton x 3,<br />

Shavers, Lyle, Holmes, Berbick and many more, and none of them ever knocked him<br />

down. Some of you guys mightn't like him, but guess what. His jaw was the best<br />

of all time. He had one helluva jaw.Frasier's knockdowns came in<br />

bunches. He didn't recover quickly.|<br />

|7/31/05 06:56:19 AM|Massimo|Roma ||4||||10|Howard-No one of us ever<br />

realized that so far, but maybe Enrico Cooper is the hardest puncher in<br />

heavyweight history! But in reality I think that Clay's jaw was for some reason<br />

not as good as Ali's joe.|<br />

|7/31/05 12:48:31 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />

CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|HELLO KENT, I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND A<br />

COMPUTER SINCE MY LAST POST, YOUR WINGNUT LIST WAS UP TO 6 I BELIEVE,WE WERE ON<br />

THE SUBJECT OF BONAVENA, ANOTHER FIGHTER WHOM WOULD HAVE HAD A TITLE IN ANOTHER<br />

ERA,BUT LIKE QUARRY, CHUVALO,RON LYLE, ERNIE SHAVERS, ZORA FOLLEY, EDDIE MACHEN,<br />

AND CLEVELAND WILLIAMS AMONG OTHERS THAT JUST FELL SHORT, I COULD SEE WHY OSCAR<br />

WAR RATED SO HIGHLY|<br />

|7/31/05 05:10:13 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Howard and Massimo - I have just been<br />

rereading Thomas Hauser's book (Muhamad Ali - his Life and Times). In it Ali<br />

says that the young Muhammad who beat Folley and Williams would have beaten the<br />

older Ali who came back after being stripped of the title.Angelo Dundee<br />

agreed with Ali and even went further and said that Ali was never allowed to<br />

peak in his ability. Dundee believes that Ali was robbed of that chance because

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