January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

others must be judged by this time. The champions, the Big Four (including
Holmes), could have been champion in ~any~ other time. At times when the
competition was stiff, the title would have likely gone back and forth. Many of
the contenders from the golden age would have been champions in many of the
other times. Can any other period make these two claims? No.As I've
mentioned before, it's easy for perspective to blur, with past guys becoming
invincible. This can happen with a current champ too. Sometimes, it goes the
other way though, and people can lose sight of how great someone from the past
was (factoring in the fact that past fighters would have to come up to speed in
terms of style). Varies, depending on appeal of a fighter for a given person.|
|3/21/04 10:02:22 AM|Massimo|the eternal city||4||||10|Quent-Sam
Langford had the size of a proton and whupped ( not whipped as I believed) big
guys' s asses ( George Godfrey etc.), but he was a legend. James Toney says he
wants to fight the Klitschko brothers and has called them bums ( even James
knows what the word ' bum' means). I don' t think he can beat the Klitschko
brothers. Maybe Wladimir, but Vitali ? Primo is dead and nobody in the wordl can
beat Vitali. Cheers if you want.|
|3/21/04 10:36:22 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||Kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Quent, it was
Holyfield you are talking about. Holyfield, the good smaller man actually did
defeat Bowe once out of three fights. Holyfield, at his best, weighed anywhere
from 205 to not more than 215. The 220 pound version of Holyfield is the older,
washed up model. Skill can overcome size, a recent example is Roy Jones
Jr., who had to bulk up to weigh 193 pounds, defeating John Ruiz, 230 pounds.
Also, in the past, Joe Louis, in his prime about 6'2" 200 pounds beat fighters
such as Canera who was 6'6" 270 pounds, Abe Simon, who was 6'5" 260 pounds and
Buddy Baer, brother of Max, at 6'6" 250. Not to mention Max Baer, himself 6'3"
215 and Tony "Two Ton" Galento, at about 5'9" 230 pounds.Our own Jerry
Quarry had a field day with Buster Mathis about 6'5" 240 pounds and dominated
Ron Lyle at 6'3" 220 pounds, the same Lyle who gave George Foreman absolute hell
just three years after losing to Jerry.Point being, even today, smaller
skilled heavyweights are finding ways to beat larger supposedly stronger men.
Until he gave up the WBA belt, Jones and Chris Byrd at 6'2" 212 pounds, held two
of the three major heavyweight title belts. When more of the giants
start winning titles and holding on to them, then we can say it is tha age of
the supersized heavyweight. In recent times, only Lennox Lewis and Bowe have
proven themselves to have real talent. Ths Klistschko brothers have potential
but they are still somewhat unproven.|
|3/21/04 12:28:09 PM|Roadscholarette|Windy City||RS||||10|Size doesn't follow a
completely smooth and gradual curve that translates predictably into proficiency
or power, and certainly not speed. Most of the time, a good bigger man should
beat a good smaller man, but it depends on where each sit on the cusp on
diminshing or expanding returns on their respective body dimensions.I
think many people lump huge guys together, many of whom were just galoots, and
then dismiss the whole group, ignoring the big guys of latter day who were
really good ~in addition~ to being big. Guys are getting bigger, and the best
are retaining their speed as well. The coming of the fast big man, which began
in the late 50s and revolutionized sports, would spell doom for many of the guys
in the past. |
|3/22/04 12:59:06 PM|Massimo|La citta' eterna||4||||10|The Undertaker has
whupped Kane' s ass !What a surprise ! Unbelievable ! What were the
bookmakers ? The Undertaker 10000000000000000000-1 favorite !|
|3/22/04 10:13:20 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Massimo,
since the klitschko brothers will never fight each other, at least The
Undertaker and Kane fight each other. After all, they are brothers in real
life.What do you mean I can't get any odds on Undertaker verses Kane,
the rematch? What do you mean professional wrestling picks the winners before
the matches? It seems real to me!|