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fight with Frazier as he knew he would be fighting Ali and he didn't want to<br />

jeapordize it. I am not sure if Frazier/Lyle was ever in the works but Lyle<br />

being the one not wanting the fight is in the realm of possibilities, especially<br />

after seeing how Frazier beat up <strong>Quarry</strong>, a fighter Lyle had lost to just about a<br />

year before. |<br />

|3/18/05 07:49:51 PM|Steve |N.J||NA||||10|Noam,your pretty good.I myself<br />

wouldn't get into the ring with anyone at my advanced age.Well,maybe if the<br />

money was right,maybe a 35 year old girl,who weighs in at a strapping 115<br />

lb.Only if she fought Frazier first.Oh,it would have to be mud<br />

wrestling.Otherwise, I'd punch her right in the chest area.|<br />

|3/18/05 08:07:48 PM|Steve |N.J||na||||10|Hey Noam,I'll bet R.S.is out there<br />

somewhere grinding her teeth together. |<br />

|3/18/05 08:21:06 PM|Steve |N.J||na||||10|Hey Noam,I strongly resent your vieled<br />

implication that Frazier was ducking Anna Nicole Smith.Remember,Frazier easily<br />

KO'D,Ron Stander,who fought a disputed draw against Mz.Smith.|<br />

|3/18/05 08:41:39 PM|Steve |NJ||NA||||10|Frazier ducking these guys for whatever<br />

reason is a moot point.It didnt happen!Now,for whatever it's worth,which I know<br />

ain't much.Lyle was too slow of hand and foot,It would have been a replay of<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> vs Frasier.Shavers couldn't handle a pressure fighter,he did well<br />

against boxers who where leery of his punch.Norton,ah,Norton.I read somewhere<br />

that Frasier beat up on Norton on a regular basis in the Philly gym wars.I also<br />

read that <strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> knocked out Norton in a sparring session.It might be<br />

hearsay, but its better than the opinions you guys have,which are based on<br />

nothing. |<br />

|3/18/05 09:37:47 PM|Steve|N.J||NA||||10|Here's a thought just thrown out<br />

there.How would Ali have down against Forman in a rematch withen say,six months<br />

of their first fight?In, Let's say,Madison Square Garden?|<br />

|3/19/05 01:12:06 AM|Kent|La Habra, ca||same||||10|Steve, Ali likely would have<br />

wanted a venue in a hot climate because George literally couldn't take the heat.<br />

<strong>The</strong> talk of a fix makes no sense in Zaire as I believe somehow Ali knew<br />

Foreman's stanima would be even less in that hot climate and true to form<br />

Foreman wilted in the 80+ degree heat even at four o'clock in the<br />

morning.That Foreman was supceptible to heat can be seen by Jimmy<br />

Young's win over Foreman in Puerto Rico on a very hot day where the heat as much<br />

as Young himself did Foreman in. Foreman's vision of seeing God in his dressing<br />

room after the fight was explained by heat exhaustion. Foreman could have very<br />

well seen the all mighty as the Lord moves in mysterious ways but the heat<br />

didn't help George any. I believe Foreman would have had a much better<br />

chance of winning a rematch if it were held in Madison Square Garden.|<br />

|3/19/05 02:29:04 AM|Massimo |former caput mundi||4||||10|Steve-<strong>The</strong><br />

answer to your last question is: DOWN GOES ALI',DOWN GOES ALI', DOWN GOES ALI',<br />

THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION IS HELPLESS WHILE FOREMAN IS HITTING HIM WITH HUGE<br />

SHOTS !!!!! All jokes apart, I'm not sure how this fight would have gone, it's<br />

hard to say. Ali' fought one of his greatest fights in Kinshasa, he went toe to<br />

toe for 7 round with "Small" George Foreman and then knocked him out in eight,<br />

to show he was great !Did Foreman see God after the Young fight ? Oh really<br />

? Interesting ! How wilt is He ? I see the Madonna every day. She's as wilt as<br />

Kent's friend from Boston. She is pretty wilt for a woman !|<br />

|3/19/05 03:07:40 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Kent -<br />

you're like a one legged duck waddling around in circles with your defense of<br />

Frazier. That second Ellis fight was a post mortem that Joe was trying to pass<br />

off as a contest. He had to take it to the other side of the planet to fool<br />

people into buying tickets for it.Foreman certainly had more room for<br />

improvement than Ali did after that first fight. If Foreman wised up and got<br />

away from the hot, humid conditions for the second fight, then I think he<br />

probably beats Ali. Ali wouldn't have got as pumped and motivated for<br />

the second fight, while Foreman would have been given the humilating loss.

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