January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

might have seen how a perpetually mobile ~boxer~ would have done against Joe,
without the bogus rope a dope garbage.|
|1/9/04 10:57:16 AM|Fran|philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|The Frazier that fought
Ali in 71 or Ellis in 70 would have destroyed Larry holmes on Holmes best night.
Holmes was not in the same class as Frazier. Norton was a perfect sparring
partner for Frazier because Frazier could unload on him but when I saw them
sparring before Frazier fought Foreman they were rockin each other. |
|1/9/04 11:26:33 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|RS-Anyway Marvis Frazier can
be proud of his career!He beat James Broad, Joe Bugner, Jose'
Ribalta,Boncrusher Smith and the Golden Gloves title ! That' s nothing to be
( or being) ashamed of !! After all,surviving (or to survive) a 19 years old
Tyson would have been hard ( or difficult) even for the iron chinned Primo
Carnera... |
|1/9/04 11:33:16 AM|Massimo|Roma||$||||10|RS-Anyway, Marvis Frazier can
be proud of his career!He beat James Broad, Joe Bugner, Boncrusher
Smith,James Tillis and the Golden Gloves title. That' s nothing to be ashamed of
! After all, surviving ( or to survive) a 19 years old Tyson would have been
hard ( or difficult) even for the iron chinned Primo Carnera...|
|1/9/04 11:38:14
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -
Marvis has nothing to be ashamed of, for sure. He's a rich man, and
likely will not have to suffer the woes Joe will as he gets older. Mike
Tyson was not only one of the all time greats, but one heck of an intelligent
guy. Mad as a loon, but he's really said some bright things. The highly
educated boxer is practically nonexistent, removing that context from
conversation, and certainly the gym is not a hotbed of traditional
intelligentsia. However, sportswriters and fans often treat anything smart they
say as sort of like a roller skating bear - you clap because the bear can do it
at all, not because it does it well. If they bothered to listen closely or
further, they'd realize these are not only bright guys natively, but almost
always fun and good hearted men away from the ring. I guess for too many people,
it's hard enough to accept that these guys could take them in a fight without
haveing to accept the possibility that they may be smarter as well!
Intelliegence is something a person ~has~, not education per se, social skills,
or grammatical speech.I think everyone just sort of accepts that da
Preem could take anyone, and just reconciles themselves to talking about all
"the other guys." :-)|
|1/9/04 01:07:13 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|RSI think too that
intelligence is essentially a native matter ! Diracs are not made, they are
born ! But believe me, education helps ! Spending a little time of your life
thinking to not totally trivial things fortifies your brain a little, just as
spending time in the gym fortifies your muscles !PS: if you are born
Stan Laurel ( the actor not the man, for God' s sake...), you can do all you
want, but you' ll be essentially Stan Laurel for all your life !|
|1/9/04 01:51:15 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|RS"Just sort of accepts"... Is
this correct English or were you drunken ? )))) I' d never have said that in
that way in a million years !!!!!!!! Anyway, I have intuited what you meant !|
|1/9/04 05:42:03 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|My last comment might be equivocated.
I meant that I have found that sentence difficult for my limited " English
understanding" possibilities. I meant no offence to my friend RS, of course !|
|1/9/04 08:23:52 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|The perfect
sparring partner for Frazier for the Ali fights would have been Jimmy Ellis.
Ellis had a style similar to Ali's and since he was a sparring partner for Ali
for a while, he knew a lot of Ali's tricks and moves.It is doubtful
Ellis would have gone back to being a sparring partner after he himself had won
a title but Frazier would have benefited if he had.The second Ellis
fight with Frazier did turn out to be a good fight to take just before fighting