January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

is the greatest fighter ever, but we've pointed out that sometimes,
circumstances got in the way of JQ performing at his best. These aren't
excuses, they're just observations. James Quarry wrote on this forum that Ali
had too much for Jerry---a little too big and a little too fast. But there's
nothing wrong with us speculating on how the outcome of the fights might have
been different if Quarry didn't get a gash near his eye. Why does this bug
people so much? Look, I'll go along with the people who think Tyson would have
prevailed against Danny Williams if he didn't injure his knee. Does this take
anything away from Williams? No, he won the fight fairly and impressively. Is
it making excuses for Tyson? No, it's simply saying that the outcome might have
been different if Tyson's knee didn't tear up in the first round. |
|8/13/04 03:12:17 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yaohoo.com||||10|TO ANGELO: No,
Holmes likes money too much and would have fought on and on even after breaking
Rocky's record. He just can't turndown a paycheck.|
|8/13/04 03:14:58 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Both Larry
Holmes verses Michael Spinks fights were close. I thought Spinks had a slight
edge in the first fight based on him landing more punches but again it all boils
down to what the judges liked and in this case they agree with me that Spinks
output was better than Holmes' harder punches. However, the reverse was
the case in the second fight, that Holmes did enough to win back his crown. But
it was still close enough so that a vote for Spinks' case could be made. I had
Holmes winning by two points, which means a switch of two rounds on any of the
close rounds would at least be a draw.Again, people saying the fix was
in is pure speculation with no concrete facts to back it up. The
jockstrap comment was made by Holmes right after the fight, in the heat of anger
and frustration because he thought he won the fight. He later apologized to
Maricano's family and fans but nobody ever brings that up. I don't believe the
comment had anything to do with the decision in the second fight. Of course it
had nothing to do with the outcome of the first fight as the comment happened
after the fight!|
|8/13/04 04:11:40 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Michele Spinks once said:" I have
never seen myself as the winner of those two fights ". I have read that
somewhere.I have never seen those fights, but what a honest person Michele
is !!|
|8/13/04 04:54:41 PM|Timana|Auckland||kiwi@hotmail.com||||10|My memory has a
defect and thanks to Angelo and Kent for pointing it out. For all these years I
thought Holmes made the 'jockstrap' comment before the fight, but he didn't, and
that puts a different complexion on it. I still thought Holmes did enough to win
that first fight and that Spinks as challenger didn't do enough to take the
title. I agree with Gerry that even if Holmes had won and been 49 blot,
he would have continued on. He still wants to fight today.I've only
heard of one other person called Kent before. I think his name was Kent Clarke.
Unusual. Any connection ? |
|8/13/04 08:03:46 PM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Jerry Quarry
and Ken Norton flip a coin.|
|8/13/04 09:09:16 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Holmes, had he gone 50-
0, would have good reason to retire unblemished. Once he lost to Spinks, and
the record was not to be, he probably figured why not come back and make as much
money as possible? He gave an in-prime Tyson a couple tough rounds and was
winding up an uppercut to ambush Tyson---the last moments of the fight---Holmes
uppercut punch was thrown with his back to the ropes, his arm got tangled on the
ropes, and Tyson clocked him. It was Holmes trying to end the fight like he did
against Mike Weaver, with an uppercut practically thrown from his ankles, out of
nowhere. But the older Holmes, without a lot of time to train for the fight,
was rusty and miscalculated. To this day, I feel that Holmes would have really
given Tyson fits if he trained harder/longer and had something to really fight
for other than a payday. Holmes, a few years later, gave Holyfield a good fight