January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

you twice so there can be no mistake about the question. You admited by waving
the wand these fights were unnecessary, and contributed to Ali becoming punch
drunk. Yet, you constantly criticize Frazier for not taking unnecessary
fights.How is it Norm, Ali was wrong for taking these fights given his
current condition ie. punch drunk? And Frazier is wrong for not taking them. Are
they both wrong. Apparently that is how you see it. You would remove these
fights from Ali's career as being unnecessary, but yet you say thet were
necessary for Frazier's career.No, Norm they were not necessary for
either fighter. It is too bad you don't have the magic wand. Because as a result
of poor management, Ali could sure use it. Frazier on the other hand does not
need any help from you with a magic wand.|
|7/5/05 06:12:27 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Angelo-What about Teofilo
Stevenson vs Joe Frazier around 1976 (when Joe was already over the
hill)?The legendary and unforgettable Nino Valdes (or Valdez ?) once said he
tought he could whip Teofilo. "I'm a professional (he said with pride) he ain't,
he is an amateur".|
|7/5/05 09:42:27 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Intersting that
Massimo brought up the name of Nino Valdez. The 6'3" 210 pound Cuban was one
fighter that Marciano was accused of avoiding during his reign as heavyweight
champion.|
|7/5/05 10:18:33 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Sorry, Forest, but I never got to the
end of your last post. You have become so boring and repetitive.What is
it with you ? Out of therapy and off medication ? Kicked out of the AA meeting ?
Oh well, I suppose that while you're typing posts, the glass is out your
hand.In case you hadn't noticed, the rest of us have moved on from the
last debate in which you again showed the miniscule knowledge you have of
boxing. Sure, you attended a few fight nights with your drinking buddies back in
the '60s and '70s, but details have long since drifted off in an alcoholic maze.
In between last drinks and the slammer, you don't remember much, do
you.Let's get you back with the programme. The current topic is about
Rocky Marciano. To refresh your memory, he was the only undefeated champion to
ever retire. Why don't you give us your opinion of him and, if you can get by
even one post without mentioning either your hero (Joe Frazier) or the arch
fiend giving you nightmares ('The Greatest'), then I'll lighten up on
you.In the meantime, try smiling more. It's fun.|
|7/6/05 02:51:46 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Dear me. I've
been gone a few months and all hell has broken out. Soon as I read that Forrest
had lost his cool, I automatically knew that someone must have said something
about Frazier that his number 1 fan didn't like.Noam, you're better off
ignoring Forrest. If you came here to debate boxing issues and maybe learn
something then forget about Forrest as he isn't the guy. Forrest is expert on
Ali's deteriorating medical problem and, judging from his last post, it makes
him happy. If you want to learn about boxing then listen to Angelo, Massimo,
Steve, Bob, Max, and even Kent (when he's not talking about Frazier).If you want
to know about excuses, wouldas/shouldas/couldas, bile, malice and spite and all
things not nice, then listen to Forrest. He's good at those things.Take
the tip Noam and pretend that Forrest is not there. By the way, Marciano was too
small to worry Ali and Louis too much. I think Holmes would have beat him also.
Foreman too.|
|7/6/05 03:06:25 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Oh, Forrest,
I nearly forget, you have to stop misquoting yourself and others.Your
last post makes it look like Noam was agreeing that a magic wand should be waved
and all what Forrest claims were "unnecessary" fights should be excised from
Ali's record. But Noam wasn't agreeing to that. He was agreeing to the
question Forrest asked on 7/1/05 at 11.55:40AM. Forrest wrote,"Noam you
never answered the question I put to you in my last post. I will ask you again.
Would you wave the magic wand and make Ali healthy again."When Noam