January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

the excuse that Cooney lost to Foreman because of Gerri's drinking and drugging.
This despite the fact repeatedly for the record Gerri claims that he was through
with drinking and drugging by that time. Gerri uses the drinking and drugging
excuse for the losses to Spinks and Holmes, although apparently the drinking and
the drugging did not interfere with his performances when he was beating broken
down old fighters.Now the excuse of the day for Gerri's loss to Foreman is
that his corner did not have a "code word", to let him know Foreman was in
trouble. A "code word", are you real?And finally it is your opinion that
Jimmy Young actually defeated Ali when they fought. Mr. Cunninghan, tell me how
does a challenger win the heavyweight championship of the world, when he
repeatedly sticks his head out between the ropes so he won't get hit. As Young
did when he fought Ali.Mr Cunningham get your head out of Gerri's ass.|
|7/21/03 04:35:37 PM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Gerry Cooney
was a fine fighter. He was never a great fighter. Neither was Chuvalo, both
could give the best guys trouble, but they weren't championship caliber. Cooney
could have snuck a title from a Mike Weaver or John Tate, but would never have a
chance against the top guys of the 70's, except maybe Norton.|
|7/21/03 05:39:28 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|On an
earlier post, someone was attacked for making reference to Cooney's win over
Jimmy Young, and pointing out that Young won some fights after that loss,
against decent fighters.Fact of the matter is, there are a few categories of
boxers, including "stepping stones," "trial horses," "live fighters,"
"contenders," and "Champions," and maybe even one or two groups I missed.
Basically, when Cooney won that fight, by TKO, in I believe, round 4 (might have
stopped Young on cuts), Jimmy Young was NOT a shot fighter. The guy who posted
only pointed out that Young still had something left by beating a couple up and
comers or at least decent quality competition after losing to Cooney. No one
has a record of only fighting top 10 boxers---everyone has some lesser known
opponents. The guys on that list of Young's wins post Cooney are recognizeable
to real boxing fans of that era. I remember these guys as tough outs. I'm not
a big Cooney fan and was actually happy to see Holmes stop the Cooney hype
machine. But the fact remains that Cooney was impressive against some decent
competition---people that real fans know and remember as tough guys. And Young
was not washed up, could still box, and in fact have Cooney a good fight were it
not for the cut. Believe me, when Cooney knocked out Norton and Lyle, these
guys were past their prime, but still dangerous. My guess is that both Norton
and Lyle could have beaten most heavyweights at that time, including those
ranked between 10 and 20. That's world class. When Larry Holmes beat Ray
Mercer, he proved that a former great old man could beat a good up and coming
fighter on a good day. If you're a Cooney basher, fine. But don't show your
ignorance by ignoring the fact that he had some nice wins against good fighters.
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|7/21/03 06:27:07 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Norton could'nt even beat LeDoux
before he got beat by Cooney and was almost knocked out by him. Norton was shot
- big time. Lyle had been knocked out by Lyn Ball if I remember correctly before
his fight with Cooney. However, I do feel Cooney was a decent fighter BUT should
have been better.I do feel he would have been very sucessful in todays
environment of poor heavies. Hey Guys - Lay off Mr Cunningham ! Oh, by the way.
Lennox Lewis is the best he lays all the Americans to rest ! |
|7/21/03 08:39:57 PM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|Angelo,
permit me to display my ignorance about boxing, since by your definition I am
not a real fight fan. After Young lost to Norton in Nov 77, and prior to
fighting Cooney 2 1/2 years later in May of 80. Young had 6 fights and he lost
3 of them. By no defintion can a victory over Young at this point in Young's
career be considered note worthy. Even so Cooney stopped him on a cut, a very
bad cut. Strangely, Cooney the great left hooker could not even knock down a
man who was half blind and drowning in his own blood.Now we come to