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January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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imress. By the the time he fought Ali he was about 40 (in my opinion) and washed<br />

up. And yes, he lacked heart, he never should have quit in the Miami fight<br />

againt Ali. I still don't know the real story on that one -- or how he died.|<br />

|9/13/02 02:41:24 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Bob,I agree with<br />

you completely on Joe Louis.I personally think he and Ali are a pick-em for all<br />

time great heavyweights.Louis threw faster,more accurate combinations than<br />

either Forman or Liston.He was also a harder puncher and stronger guy than he<br />

seems to be getting credit for on this site.|<br />

|9/13/02 03:59:39 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|John, Liston's<br />

mother once said she thought Sonny was born in 1929 then later changed it to<br />

1932, no one knows for sure. I don't think Sonny knew how old he was. He was<br />

born on an Arkansas plantation with no birth certificate. I beleive his mother<br />

had 12 or 13 kids with various men. So he may have been as old as 35 when he won<br />

the title. I think in the first Ali fight he just said the hell with it, I'm<br />

tired, I can't catch this guy I'm going home. Another day another dollar. I<br />

remember a story when Sonny fought Chuck Wepner. Wepner said during the ref's<br />

instructions Liston looked like he was 50 years old and been out drinking all<br />

night. He was a good, strong fighter with one of the best jabs in boxing<br />

history, but he had a hard time coping with crafty boxers like Machen. Maybe if<br />

Liston had given himself a break earlier in life he would have made a great<br />

champion. |<br />

|9/13/02 07:35:10 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|How come we<br />

don't have more comments on Ali verses Frazier, prime against prime? I want to<br />

say again, or if I have neglected to do so, thank you to Evren for keeping our<br />

long time tournament going. It has been a long hard road from start to finish.|<br />

|9/14/02 10:52:58 AM|EVREN|LONDON||@||||10|Enjoying a holiday in Italy will post<br />

soon. Evren|<br />

|9/14/02 12:16:28 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />

CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|EVERN: It must be nice!, no,i hope you<br />

are having a good time there (especially on there beaches!). i've sat back and<br />

pondered the FOREMAN/LOUIS bout. I have to agree with JOHN G. AND GO WITH BIG<br />

GEORGE. and only going by opponents alone, didn't LOUIS have a "BUM OF THE MONTH<br />

CLUB?" I know George fought more than his share of "bums!" But at they same<br />

token,he sure took on a lot<br />

better,Lyle,Ali,Frazier(twice),Norton,Holyfield,Chuvalo,Moorer,Morrison,Young,ok<br />

ay big GEORGE never used footwork,and neither did LOUIS,(THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO!)<br />

GOING OUT ON A LIMB. EARLY ROUND KAYO-FOREMAN.|<br />

|9/14/02 03:31:52 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA<br />

CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|TWO-THINGS THAT I HAVE FORGOTTEN,EDDIE<br />

MACHEN TURNED 34 THE NIGHT HE UPSET JERRY. AND SHORTLY (A FEW MONTHS) BEFORE<br />

QUARRY'S COME BACK VS LORENZO ZANON. JERRY ROLLED HIS PICKUP AND BROKE HIS BACK<br />

FOR THE THIRD TIME, ON A CALIFORNIA BACK ROAD BY WHERE,JAMES DEAN MET HIS<br />

DEMISE.MIGHT HAVE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH JERRY'S PERFORMANCE ALTHOUGH HE<br />

GUTTED IT OUT W/ KAYO WIN. QUARRY SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTING SOMEONE LIKE 8TH<br />

RANKED EVANGELISTA, AND GOT AN EARLY KAYO, WITH THE RANKING RATHER THAN TAKE ON<br />

A MATADOR LIKE ZANON. I REMEMBER BOXING ILLUSTRATED DID RATE JQ 15TH WORLD FOR<br />

THE COMEBACK WIN.|<br />

|9/14/02 06:25:04 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Jimmy D, <strong>Jerry</strong><br />

had no business fighting anybody in 1977, Evangelista included. Even though he<br />

was still at a relatively young age of 32, he had taken far too much punishment<br />

and he should have stayed retired after the Norton fight. As a fan of <strong>Jerry</strong>'s I<br />

was happy to see him fight again, and I screamed at <strong>Jerry</strong> on the TV to please<br />

throw punches all the way through the bout, which saw Zanon outbox him for<br />

almost eight rounds before <strong>Jerry</strong> lowered the boom. In hindsight though, I think<br />

I was a bit selfish for wanting <strong>Jerry</strong> to fight again because it was in <strong>Jerry</strong>'s<br />

best interest not to do so. Oh by the way, I think <strong>Jerry</strong> would have beaten<br />

Evangilista, even at that stage of his career. |

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