January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

and he could fight again? I don't think anybody would think Patterson is not
retired now.FYI, WHY NOT COMMENT ON MY CASE STATING THAT SEVERAL CURRENT
HEAVYWEIGHTS WHO ARE AS SMALL OR SMALLER THAN FIGHTERS OF THE 60S AND 70S HAVE
BEEN SUCCESSFUL RECENTLY AND THAT IT IS POSSIBLE A LOT OF HEAVYWEIGHTS OF MY ERA
COULD DO WELL TODAY BECAUSE OF THEIR SKILL.|
|1/7/06 01:46:43 PM|Ultra Ray|Kansas||worldboxing.com||||10|FYI, don't flatter
yourself at my expense. Believe me, if I was going to "steal" material, it would
not be from you. It would be from the late: Dick Young, Gene Ward, Lester
Bromberg, Milton Gross, Arthur Daley, Bob Waters, Ed Mullins, among others.
Those still alive: Larry Merchant, Phil Pepe, Robert Boyle, among
others.There are not too many "boxing writers" alive today who I would
"steal from." And least of all you.Funny thing, the way you complain you
remind me of Noam aka Howard C. They were both one and the same and they were
from England too. Howard C claimed he was from Louisville Kentucky, but that was
a lie. And should be apparent to anyone who paid attention to his posts.
Cheerio|
|1/9/06 01:51:11 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|In-Prime
fantasty match: Ken Norton vs. Riddick Bowe. How would this one play out? What
about Norton-Holyfield? I think this second match is even more interesting.
Kent, I bet you have some strong opinions???? I think Norton would have
problems with Bowe's size. But it wouldn't surprise me if Norton pulled off the
win. I think if he could avoid an early knockout, he would gain confidence as
the fight wore on, and Bowe might lose confidence (as he did against Golata).
If Norton felt sure he wouldn't be KOed, he could be a very dangerous fighter.
Norton vs. Holyfield would be a war. I have a hard time making a call on that
one. |
|1/9/06 03:56:00 PM|Steve|MJ||na||||10|Angelo, though you and I rarely post to
each other,this time I've got to agree with what your telling that famous sports
writter,FYI.No matter how you mix and match,their's not a current top ten guy
who could defeat any body from ,let's say ,1971.|
|1/9/06 04:18:19 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve:
There might be active guys who, on a given night, could upset one of the early
70's greats. But man for man, based on consistent measurments of boxing
ability, stamina, will to win (heart), competitiveness, etc., there's no
comparison of the two eras. You'll always find an exception, but I'm looking at
the rule---not the odd exception---and by and large, those 70's guys would win
more than they would lose against today's heavies. The size thing has its
merits in other sports though: For example, in football, today's players
outweigh yesterdays by up to 75 pounds or more on the line, and that's major.
You take a big offensive line of today and match them against the Vikings
(Eller, Marshall, Page, Larson) or the Cowboys (Jethro Pugh, Bob Lilly), even
big guys like the Chiefs (Buck Buchannan)---the four modern guys defending
against yesterday's best line-ups might outweigh the defense by a combined 200
pounds or more and that's very hard to compensate for with technique. Also,
today's football players have more speed. Again, there are exceptions (Bob
Hayes would outrun most of today's guys) but on average, these guys today are
much bigger and faster. And still, many of today's football players will play
games with broken bones, stitches/cuts, lots of pain. But I will say, there was
a toughness factor that is still around, but not as obvious as it was back then.
Look at the Falcons Tommy Nobis, the Packers Ray Nitchke, The Bears Dick Butkus-
--these guys were brutal animals. You move forward to Lawrence Taylor, and he
was better than any of them because he had strength and speed and also a very
cerebral understanding of offenses and where players would be on the field in
relation to him---LT would "read an offense" the way Joe Montana would read a
defense, and he'd fly toward where he thought the action was and it was amazing
how many times he was right. I think Ray Lewis is almost to that level, but
just misses. Lewis is still an awesome force, but I don't think he changes a