January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

opponents draped over the ropes and hung out to dry. ALI was very amused when he
said it".That makes more sense, and I think I know the fight they're
talking about.. Chuvalo fought someone name Dejohn and he draped him over the
ropes and k o'ed him (on national tv) and the referee ruled it was a foul and
gave Dejohn a chance to recover and they fought on. George ended up winning a
decision.Very crude, very strong and very tough is best way I could
describe Chuvalo. I don't think even Ray Mercers chin was as strong as
Chuvalos.|
|11/17/05 02:44:17 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Steve, the mother of a friend of
mine was famous for complaining about the "bog Irish". Not sure what she meant,
but it was intended to be an affectionate insult, rather than just an insult, if
you know what I mean. Perhaps "bog" has a different American meaning and I
shouldn't use it. I hope not. Regards steroids. Ed mentioned the East
Germans. Imagine being an athlete who trained his/her guts out to get to the
Olympic final of, say, the sprint. You get beat by an East German and come
second. Ten years later you learn that he/she only beat you because they used
steroids. How would you feel ? Denied a gold medal because of a cheat ! Same
thing with Toney if he's guilty.Using steroids is a cheating shortcut.
Norton didn't need them. Neither did Foreman 1. Hard work in the gym did it for
them. Ali and Frazier had more natural physiques. So did Jerry. They had hard
punches without the over-developed muscles behind them. Ali, Frazier and Quarry
were all natural instinctive fighters, whereas Norton and Foreman were more the
'developed-in-the-gym' types. In my opinion, anyway. |
|11/17/05 07:48:25 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|...and
Mike Weaver looked like Hercules too, sort of like Norton. Regarding Quarry vs.
Norton: It's not only ironic, but somewhat shameful and somewhat annoying that
Norton made those comments about "always wanting to fight Jerry Quarry" after
siezing the perfect window of opportunity to make a fight with an unprepared,
past-his-prime Quarry. I heard often back in the 70's about how cocky Ken
Norton was and it did show. For Norton to crow about fighting and beating
Quarry---it makes Norton look bad, and foolish. It would be like Larry Holmes
saying he "always wanted to fight Muhammad Ali" after beating Ali, who was only
a shell of his former glory. |
|11/17/05 10:15:34 AM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|George Chuvalo was only
really hurt once in his career. It came against George Foreman in the third
round. The most befuddled I ever saw him look was against Ali I in the late
rounds and right before he knocked out Jerry Quarry. I own tons of Chuvalo
fights and never saw him hurt otherwise. He was stopped against Frazier because
his orbital bone was cracked by a Frazier left-hook. He wasn't about to go down
though. He actually wasn't going to go down against Foreman either. Foreman
was wailing away and tiring himself out while Chuvalo was recupirating.
Chuvalo's manager threw in the towel and Chuvalo said "Are you crazy". I would
have liked to see that fight go longer as I think Foreman was already tiring and
Chuvalo got better as the fights went on. Chuvalo did slip against Bonavena and
it could have been ruled a kncokdown, however it wasn't. Ellis also hit him
with many shots in the 11th round of their fight. Chuvalo was bothered but not
actully hurt. Ellis could punch, he is totally underrated in that respect. |
|11/17/05 01:05:25 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Angelo, you are
right about the type of steroid Toney was taking, Nandrolone is a banned
substance. Although it was prescribed for his arm injury and he may have taken
it given his doctors advice, unaware it was banned. A more likely scenario
would be his doctor told him if he took the steroid he could start training in 3
months instead of 6 and it would be out of his system by the time the state
commission checked him out. Ignorance, weather real or feigned, is no excuse.
Besides, he didn't need steroids to beat Ruiz.As for the body types of
fighters it’s the same as everyone else. Heredity. Foreman and Norton worked
out the same way Ali, Frazier, Liston and Patterson did. That’s the way it was