January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

that tired subject...I'll take Vitali out of the two brothers, even though
Wlad does have more talent. Vitali is a proven commodity. In fact, Vitali could
very easily be undefeated.His loss to Byrd, due to injury, happened when he
was seven pints ahead on all three cards. Byrd can't fight that guy. The other
was to Lewis, where, again, he was ahead.I agree Lewis was done at that
point and better overall, but he would have had a very hard time with Vitali at
any point.It may be time to consider Vitali Klitschko, the dominant heavy of
this decade, as a top 20 all-timer ...More Super Fights lately, Brewster
overcame his low blows and was trailing Krasniqui when he finally won his title
match.I would love to see Jerry and Brewster, who should just hand his belt
to one of the four or so guys above him.Toney dismissed Guinn as a future
contender with his lopsided win.Byrd walked thru his title bout and became
the latest to defeat Williamson.Tarver also beat Jones, possibly spelling
the end for Jones there.OK, at least a couple of these were very dull
matches. For Byrd, it was his first fight in a year. This is why guys here
still talk about the good ol' days. Thanks.|
|10/5/05 04:04:40 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Gerry:
Vitali, Top 20 all time? Hardly. I don't see it. I'm not saying he won't end
up there, but at this point, no way. Until proven otherwise, I'll hold to the
opinion that Vitali would be dismantled by many, many golden era (70's)
contenders, much less Champions. |
|10/5/05 11:51:43 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|If Vitali can
beat most of the notable heavyweights out there in his era, than we can talk top
20 all time but he still has a ways to go before he can be
considered.Yes Wladimir has talent but his main flaw, his chin, makes
him suspect every time he faces a puncher. His win over Sam Peter was a huge
win but I feel Sam would have won if he just let his hands go more.Sam
reminds me of Tua, big power but relies too much on one punch. Tua when he
fought Lewis just followed Lennox around and he took a "shellacking" Great
word, right Massimo?I remember Tua had a hair doo that made him look a
lot like a pineapple. I remember yelling at the television at Tua, "come on
pineapple head, throw some punches!"|
|10/6/05 01:13:17 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||Mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|I ran across this
article and it puts a very realistic view on marital arts and street fighting. I
know its not a boxing topic but I found it very interesting. Check it
out.http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/fightingfacts.html|
|10/6/05 08:46:31 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Kent-I have never heard the
word "shellaking" here in Roma, but I guess it means something very close to
"whupping"."Whupping", another great word.I think Vitali still has a
chance to be remembered as a top 20 all time. If he makes 5-6 other (or more)
title defenses and then retires, how to deny him a top 20 rating ?|
|10/6/05 09:02:43 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ed, that is
some useful information. I have some martial arts training and I have
fought in light contact points tournaments. I never won a lot those matches but
it wasn't important to me as points are counted according to what judges think
would be effective if they were used in full force.I considered those
tournaments to be just another training exercise, useful if you just use it in
the proper context of throwing kicks and punches and blocking those in return.
I never thought those tournaments were a measurement of ture fighting
ability.I also did some sparring with boxers in the gym, a useful cross
training tool to enhance my training.What is good about that article is
it points out that if someone gets in fights, he is, at some point, going to get
hurt. The problem with a lot of martial artists who don't participate
in full contact fighting is they learn to dish out punishment but they don't
learn how to take punishment. It is good for safety in training but it
can limit how effective a defense can be.|
|10/9/05 04:26:31 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Gerry, please take the time to