January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

haven't trained properly,or are trying to shrink yourself to a smaller weight
class.Hey,just like Jockeys,you don't get to gain weight back,and fight a guy
you are naturally bigger than.|
|3/7/06 08:21:18 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: I
don't disagree with you---but I just pointed out why I don't think they'd ever
go along with it---it would cause huge problems if a guy didn't make weight and
fights had to be cancelled, money refunded, etc.As for Young, I totally
disagree with you that he "didn't come out to win" against Foreman. That's
utter nonsense. Young was a lighter hitter, so he didn't slug it out against
everyone---he was a classic stick and move guy who frustrated the hell out of
bigger, stronger and yes, better fighters. He used a defensive fight plan and
stuck with his strategy to compensate for lower weight and less strength than
many of his opponents. His fight against Foreman was brilliant---the pinnachle
of his career. He made one mistake in, I believe, the seventh round. But he
quickly recovered and even finished that round strong, backing Foreman up. He
knocked Foreman down and easily won two thirds of the rounds. I believe he
outpointed Norton too, though the judges didn't see it that way. |
|3/8/06 04:06:50 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Thats true Angelo.
The name of the game is boxing and skilled boxers like Young and Byrd might seem
boring but there moves are very effective.Power punchers are overrated at
times because they overwhelm there opponents defense. When put in with a skilled
and unafraid fighter, the power punchers flaws are exposed. |
|3/8/06 08:23:15 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron||||10|Ed: Yes, "unafraid"
is the key. Young wasn't intimidated by the bigger power hitters. He just
stood in front of them and gave them moves and movement they hadn't seen before.
On a different level, Buster Douglas accomplished this against Mike Tyson. Most
of Tysons previous opponents lost before the fight started, because they were
terrified of being hit by Tyson. A prime example is Michael Spinks, who was
scared out of his mind---you could see in his eyes that he was shaking in fear
before Tyson even hit him once. Enter James Douglas, who refused to buy into
the fear factor. Douglas had a plan to jab and move. Now, it helps that
Douglas was also tall and heavy, with a punch of his own. This is something
Young and Byrd lacked. But the point is that Douglas was unafraid and he stuck
with his plan for an entire fight. When Tyson caught him, he didn't panic or
change his strategy. He shook it off. Just like Young did against Foreman. |
|3/8/06 07:41:17 PM|steve |NJ||NA||||10|Hey Angelo,Tell me this.What do you
think would happen if Foreman had gotten another shot at Young. Do you really
admire the fighting style of Young and Ruiz?Maybe you should take up fencing.|
|3/8/06 07:50:50 PM|steve |NJ||NA||||10|angelo,Jimmy youngs'style and Buster
Douglasses' style weren't even remotelly alike.Buster Douglass stood his ground
and counterpunched with authority.Thats how he won against Tyson.Jimmy young
never stood toe to toe with anyone.He just drapped himself all over them,and
bored them to death.Same with Ruiz.|
|3/8/06 08:54:38 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Steve, I
wouldn't compare Jimmy Young's style to Ruiz's though because Ruiz is more of a
brawler and Young's style was more like Chris Byrd's style.I don't think
it would have been wise for Young to abandon his stick and move style when he
fought Foreman and Lyle. Why get your head beat in if you can hit and avoid
punches coming your way?|
|3/9/06 09:09:27 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: I
don't admire the fighting style of Ruiz, who hangs on, is sloppy, I believe
weighs about 230, is big and strong and doesn't box, doesn't slug---just
survives his way to wins. I did admire Young's style---a smaller heavyweight
who counted on slick boxing to outsmart his bigger, more powerful opponents.
What would have happened in a Young-Foreman rematch? We'll never know, because
the fight put Foreman into retirement after he had hallucinations and heat
exhaustion. My guess is that Young would have outpointed him again, as long as