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January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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failed dismally.Steve - actually, if you read and digest the statistics<br />

I posted, you will find them insightful and extremely relevant. It demonstrates<br />

the greatest jaw that ever boxed and how that boast is proved as empirical<br />

facts. If you want to learn nothing, then Fan's your man. He has the words but<br />

no substance and no answers. If you want to discuss boxing looking at different<br />

angles, and supported by facts, then read me and some of the others<br />

here.By the way, the statistics I posted were about stamina, longevity,<br />

and durability. I didn't mention the 'd'word, but if you drew from those<br />

statistics that Ali fought monsters who Frazier didn't, you can't blame me.<br />

Someone hit me in the head with an axe. <strong>The</strong> Dead Parroters stopped us<br />

using the 'd' word. <strong>The</strong>y took it out of boxing's dictionary. Now they want to<br />

ban statistics out as well !!!!! :) |<br />

|8/1/05 09:48:15 PM|steve |nj||na||||10|Hey Angelo,Ali once said,and I<br />

quote,"It's hell being black in America".you know what?It was hell being a<br />

second generation Irishman,or Italian,who got drafted,or enlisted,against thier<br />

immigrant parents wishs, and went to Vietnam.|<br />

|8/1/05 10:14:37 PM|Kent|Murriieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Sorry Steve,<br />

for some reason I thought Jimmy D brought up the toughness question. I still<br />

don't know who is toughest for that period although Machen would be more likely<br />

to listed in the 1955 to 65 list. Anybody who can hang tough like he did verses<br />

Liston has to have been plenty tough.Funny, the editor from Eastside<br />

asked for a new article this week as it has been a slow week for boxing and I<br />

was going to do one on the Frazier subject, like I said. But I am sick of the<br />

subject at the moment.What do you want to bet that Noam won't let go of<br />

it even for a moment?|<br />

|8/1/05 10:24:08 PM|Steve|NJ||NA||||10|KENT,just write the damn article!It's<br />

what you do best!I'd like to read it! Stop being so lazy and worried about other<br />

poeples opinions.Your pieces on that site have been professional and well<br />

balenced.|<br />

|8/1/05 10:32:53 PM|Steve|nj||na||||10|Kent,one of my sons is in colledge,with a<br />

journalism major.He keeps writing pieces,then he reads them the next day,and<br />

tears them up!I keep telling him to send them out.YOU CAN'T GET ANYWHERES IF YOU<br />

DONT TRY.|<br />

|8/1/05 11:12:08 PM|steve |NJ||NA||||10|Noam,your a very interesting poster.I<br />

apoligize for my horrible spelling and grammer.I'm obviously not as well<br />

educated as you,and ah,duh,I can barely type.Please don't start with the<br />

statistics.Post about <strong>Quarry</strong>.I get the feeling your not as old as me.So have you<br />

ever seen any of his fights on film?Now that's exciting!Give me your opinion on<br />

<strong>Quarry</strong> vs Thad Spencer.|<br />

|8/1/05 11:21:09 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Okay, I get the message. You guys<br />

don't like Ali because, brashly, nearly half a century ago, he uttered the<br />

words, "All whitemen are devils". Let's look at your resentment by applying the<br />

most used and accurate trueism of all time: ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN<br />

WORDS.To do so, we'll pretend that Ali never recanted the 'devil'<br />

comment in 1984, as published in the widely acclaimed book Brutal Artistry. And<br />

I'll have to forget that I saw and heard Ali tell Sir David Frost in a recent<br />

interview that he was wrong in making the 'devil' comment.So let's look<br />

at Ali's ACTIONS. Has anyone EVER accused Ali of refusing to sign an autograph<br />

for a white person ? No, never.In 1974 Ali was named 'Fighter of the<br />

Year' by the Ring magazine, and 'Sportsman of the Year' by Sports Illustrated.<br />

<strong>The</strong>se awards aren't given to racists.Ali travelled to Beirut in 1985 and<br />

negotiated the freedom of four American hostages. White guys among<br />

them.In November 1990 Ali travelled to Iraq and negotiated the release<br />

of 15 American hostages, mostly whites. He was there the same month his father<br />

died. Ali outstayed the medication he had for his Parkinsons sickness and placed<br />

his own health at risk by not taking it when he stayed overseas negotiating the<br />

releases.Ali helps blacks, too. When Frazier's close friend Ken Norton

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