January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

etter.Norton vs Jose Luis Garcia II- Great action match as Norton
avenges previous loss.Frazier vs Chuvalo- This fight is a classic for as
long as it lasted, almost made my top 10.Frazier vs Mathis- Mathis holds
his own quite well here. Ali vs Shavers- Shavers lands some
BOMBS.Frazier vs Ellis I- Frazier sizzles.Ali vs Norton I and
III- Both good tactical matches.Foreman vs Frazier II- Very good
action.Foreman Vs Norton- Foreman at his best.Shavers vs Norton-
Destructive Shavers.More later|
|8/5/04 08:30:15 PM|Fran|Philly||PLC7755@aol.com||||10|Out of Curiousity how
many of you saw the Quarry Foster fight live? Or the Quarry Lyle fight live? How
about the Quarry Shavers fight live. I am starting to think that noone on this
site saw these fights live. |
|8/5/04 08:38:38 PM|Kent|LH Ca||kentallenetc||||10|My all time ranking of Mike
Tyson has changed as he never has won a battle of attrition, where the going
gets tough.Yes the twisted knee contributed to him not moving as good as
he could have but he still wasn't immobile. Once Williams survived being badly
hurt in round one and he began fighting back hard, Tyson fell into his bad
habits of not moving in behind the jab and throwing combinations with both
hands. Tyson began loading up with one punch at a time, expecting his power to
bail him out and it didn't.I would say Tyson is similar after all to
Shavers in that he often has used limited skills, in Tyson's case it is because
of his bad habits of not using the skills he has, combined with one of the
hardest punches of all time.I used to think there was no way Jerry
Quarry could beat an in prime Tyson, as Tyson's accurate punching would slice up
Jerry's tender skin but now I think that Jerry may very well have been able to
survive the early Tyson onslaught and then come back to knock Tyson out. Tyson
has almost never beaten someone who stood up to him who is not afraid and Jerry
would not have been afraid of him. James Quick Tillis was the exception, who
lost by decision to Tyson before Tyson won the title and if Tillis could almost
beat Tyson, then Jerry would have a good chance of beating Tyson.|
|8/5/04 09:36:40 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: All good points.
Tyson won by intimidation, and the tactic wouldn't have worked against Quarry.
Look, this isn't about liking Quarry or disliking Tyson---Tyson's gig is over.
It ended the night Douglas whipped him. Tyson was a great young heavyweight
with speed and power. He accomplished amazing feats by age 20. But that
doesn't make a career. He showed flaws, even in some of his big wins (I'm
thinking about the Holmes fight.). After Buster beat him, Tyson unraveled.
He's now been exposed several times as someone who has to win early against a
good fighter, or he'll lose. I'm with you---I would have never considered JQ
having a chance against an in-prime Tyson, but suddenly, I'm wondering if an in-
prime Tyson was ever really tested. Quarry fought well against the great
fighters and fought brilliantly against some very good ones. |
|8/5/04 10:16:30 PM|Ernie Laxalt|Reno, NV||elax66@aol.com||||10|Massimo, the
verb kvetch means per gemere, protestare, gemere, gemere, comportarsi come un
bambino crying. Veda che cosa significo? It's Yiddish. Someone who keeps saying
Cleve Williams might have been champ, as I did, is a kvetch. Kent, your
comments are always well-reasoned and well-out. Keep up the good work.
Fran, you are one hell of a gal. I'm sorry I called you son and yes, you
probably could beat on me now. Liston is somewhat underrated on this
site, probably because we all see his losses to Ali and not too many of his
earlier fights. But he had the same mystique and legend of being a Monster Bad
Boy that Tyson or Foreman did. He had a gimmick in training of skipping rope and
working the speed bag to the song "Night Train" (is that the right one, Kent?)
that scared sportswriters and opponents alike. He had good size for his era
(1955-1965), devastating power in both hands, good fundamentals and reasonable
speed. He used to hurt opponents good and bad something fierce. After all, he
destroyed Floyd Patterson, who despite what you younger writers think, was a