January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

don't think the Charles I see in early 50's film vs Louis, Walcott I,II and
Marciano twice was that overly impressive. He didn't have a real big punch at
heavy and I really think Jerry of '69 would have beaten Charles of '50 or '51.
I would realize I would be in a minority in this opinion, most experts would
agree with you Evren. |
|7/3/02 11:48:47 AM|Johnny Q|New York||johnqw@yahoo.com||||10|Last night ESPNCL
ran the entire Holmes v Cooney fight. I'd never seen it before, though I'd
heard about it from many people over the years, including how out classed Cooney
was, and how the fight was over hyped etc. What I saw was something different.
I saw a close fight, up until the last couple of rounds. I saw a great fighter
in Holmes, fighting a tactical fight and having a tough time with a big
determined challenger. Cooney did not have the skills and experience to take
the title, but he came back from a second round knockdown to stand with Holmes
until the 13th round. Cooney did a lot better than the majority of Holmes other
opponents. Despite what I've read, Holmes never beat Cooney up. He outboxed
and outlasted Cooney, who ran out of gas. It was perhaps Holmes toughest fight
next to Norton, and until he lost to Spinks. Cooney made for an exciting fight,
and got bashed by the press who exploited the racial element. I was glad to see
the program pointed out that Holmes and Cooney have since appeared at events
together and show mutual respect.|
|7/3/02 11:56:16 AM|EVREN|LONDON||@||||10|Them fights mentioned of Charles' were
not I agree his most impressive but watch some of his non title encounters with
Satterfield, Layne, Norkus, Reynolds etc and you see a completely different
beast..a very aggressive sharpshooting fighter who was smart, real smart. In my
opinion he would have been to good all round for Jerry, but then again we all
see fights differently and I respect everyones opinions and thoughts greatly.|
|7/3/02 12:15:29 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononide@aol.com||||10|I agreee Johnny,
Cooney fought an in prime Holmes very tough and he actually would have been
ahead on the judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage if not for three
points being deducted for low blows, in which two of the deductions. were
legitimate and one was shown on a replay to be a good body shot that was called
a low blow by referee Mills Lane. It was one of Holmes toughest title defenses
in which he pulled out a victory in true championship form. Holmes showed true
championship heart by facing adversity and coming out on top. It was in no way
an easy victory and I have new found respect for Cooney as I haven't seen the
fight since it happened. After much consideration, I have to say the Ezzard
Charles that split Rocky Marciano's nose and gave Rocky hell would beat our
Jerry by decision. As much as I love Jerry, I have to rate him below an in
prime Marciano and I think Charles would outscore him. In a fight that could
have taken place for real, Holyfield wins by decision over Tucker. I think
Tucker is an underrated fighter but Holyfield would outwork him over the
distance but it would not be an easy fight for Holyfield. |
|7/3/02 12:52:48 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|I AGREE, HOLMES WAS A GREAT CHAMPION.NO
OPINION ON CHARLES-QUARRY!ELLIS 4TH RANKED BY W.B.A. AT THE TIME OF HIS SHAVERS
LOSS,MUST MEAN QUARRY'S LYLE WIN HAD HIM #5. THE RING MAGAZINE LIKED TO DIFFER.|
|7/3/02 03:20:52 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|BOB BUMBERA: i have not been around bob
but the fighter on the front of the site, whom JERRY is putting the wood to. is
none other than "bad" THAD SPENCER.I recently sent to Iowa to get the
QUARRY/BAILEY Fight off microfilm, they wanted too charge JQ admission,than
after decking BAILEY 5 times and going 10.SECOND-RANKED JERRY was locked out of
his dressing room!!!He got treated a liitle tacky down there in DES MOINES,Lew
Eskin referee, QUARRY SAID IN 50 BOUTS IT WAS THEY WORST HE'D EXPERIENCED IN 50
PRO BOUTS!!Eskin was editor of BOXING ILLUSTRATED, maybe that accounted for
there terrible top ten ratings!! ha ha|
|7/3/02 05:23:22 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Having no opinion on Quarry - Machen -