January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

"I lived through that period and I can't tell you who I am but I can assure you
that the Quarrys know me and I'm an expert", and Kent "How many fights have you
been to ?" (to which the gangster's mole replied: "More than you,
upstart".)Well, I'M done debating that subject because I've proved my
point. Kent - I noticed you haven't picked holes in the very telling
statistics I provided on Ali and Frazier. Did you detect any errors ? I would
appreciate knowing if you did as I want to make sure the list is accurate,
especially if you are going to quote them in the testimonial you are writing on
Frazier.|
|8/2/05 05:14:05 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I'm sure the
Frazier debate will recycle, especially if Kent publishes that article on East
Side Boxing. For me, the only debate was about whether Frazier "should have"
fought some of the big hitters. Yes, he "should have" if a historic legacy of
greatness was to be untouchable. No, he "shouldn't have" if the guy using
Forrest Ward's name is to be believed, because it would have been too risky to
Frazier's record and his health. Both the point and counterpoint are
legitimate. Now, for those of us who have tried to make the debate Frazier vs.
Ali, there simply isn't a debate to be had. Ali beat him two of three times,
including the only KO in the trilogy, and Ali's career is just so far and above
Frazier's, there's nothing to argue. As for Joe Louis, he beats all of today's
Top Five fighters in a one year period, basically beating one every other month.
Guys like Holmes, Ali, Louis---they would laugh at today's silly notion of
having to wait a year and a half between fights. |
|8/2/05 06:09:34 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||9|I agree with Angelo's general
assessment on Frazier. Sure, it's easy to argue that Frazier should have boxed
some guys he didn't fight. But, again, it just doesn't detract from his ability
overall.I will debate that Ali did legitimately beat Joe twice, theirs was a
tremendous matchup that gave Ali alot more than he wanted.But Ali clearly
had the better career, the much better list of opponents.If you are going to
razz today's fighters for Joe Louis, I'd like you to include Lennox Lewis and
Vitali Klitschko in the Brown Bomber's 'Bum of the Month' tour thru today's
heavies...Noam, you remain priceless. Jane Fonda went to Hanoi because she
midguidedly believed he celebrity could aid the cause of peace. She didn't hate
her country or want to aid America's enemies, no matter what your Archie Bunker
handbook says. She was a famous dopey kid with too much money. Now she's much
older and has apologized profusely for it, which is all a wiser person can
do.At least give her the credit for seeing Vietnam for the bullshit it was,
just as this war is in Iraq.If it would end all the crap there, I'd send her
over to Baghdad for photos today.|
|8/2/05 06:40:36 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|I agree that most of the top
contenders today ain't good but what makes you guys think (or what does make you
guys think, or gets you guys thinking etc.) that Vitali Klitschko is a bum ? I
realize that he has a clumsy style but he has being beating guys like Corrie
Sanders, Danny Williams (not a monster, but a good fighter) and many others. He
is strong ! His style is clumsy but very effective!! I know that Joe Louis was
an all time great and probably would have beaten Vitali most of the times (or
time), but Vitali Klitschko is a damn good heavyweight. He got size, power and
heart (he proved it in the Lewis fight). I'm so damn tired and I gotta go to my
6'2" 1/2 long bed. Ciao.|
|8/2/05 06:50:30 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Hello Pete,
high tech lynching of Ali? I have never said anything about Ali other than he
is the greatest heavyweight of all time.I have stayed out of others'
assesments of his character and behavior during the 60s and today.Don't
think that just because I have defended Frazier's ablitities as a fighter that I
have been negative towards Ali. It is just not true.|
|8/2/05 06:54:13 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||9|Slow down
Gerry. Where were you when the person calling himself Forrest Ward wanted to