January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

probably outpoints Frazier, but an early stoppage isn't out of the equation.
Holmes won 64 % of his fights by kayo. Of his 43 kayo wins, 17 of those were
knockouts usually in round 4.Joe was a slow starter, so Holmes would
have pressed for a stoppage early (especially if this fight happened after
Foreman stopped Frazier when it was thereafter obvious that Joe's chin was
vulnerable).Holmes certainly wouldn't have been intimidated having
fought big punchers like Shavers (twice) and Norton. Big names didn't worry him
either. He fought Ali, and he wasn't too frightened to face Tyson at age 38. He
also showed that he could beat fighters with big left hooks when he stopped
Cooney, so Frazier's left shouldn't have proved a problem.Holmes could
take a punch, too. And let's not forget he won 20 successive title defenses. In
my opinion, Holmes was in the top 5 heavies of all time.I haven't been
able to find yet a heavyweight champion who fought more career rounds than
Holmes. Larry fought 575 rounds (average per fight of 7.8 rounds). Ali fought
553 rounds and Frazier 214. Holmes is right up there with the elite.Just
think in his career he was in the ring fighting the best for 28.75 hours and he
never made a fool out of himself. It took an in prime monster like Tyson to stop
him when Larry was 38.|
|8/7/05 02:09:19 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Pete, some of
us have said some things we shouldn't have and we apologized but Noam really
didn't apologize, he continued to take a shot at me by keeping with the Dead
Parrots society title, I take it as he is being smug and acting superior and
saying I am stupid. This was something he kept saying before you were here.
It is insulting and something he thinks is funny at my expense and it is mean
spirited. Noam kept the fued going by saying this.I wouldn't be
surprised if he calls me a crybaby or some other direspectful comment for saying
he really didn't apologize and that I don't like the Dead Parrots comment.
Ironic, I am sorry for some of the things I said to him and I don't call
him a crybaby for taking offense.Pete, if you have the time to go
through the archives you will see that others have been harder on me than I was
ever on them. But I am not innocent either but none of us are who have been
involved in our little feud. Funny, I agree with Noam about Frazier and
his land deal if he played the race on this. That if Joe played the race card
becasue he made a bad deal, then that is wrong. But I thought we were beyond
the Frazier topic when he said this.Until this time I have not commented
on Ali or Frazier's character or behaivor. in the vast majority of my posts I
have talked about boxing regarding them, except Ali's stance on not going into
the military, which I agree with Ali on this and him taking back negative things
he said earlier in his life about white people, which I also agree was the right
thing for him to do. I did say he could have winded up dead if he had
said so in the 1960s but I don't blame him for that. After all, his friend
Malcolm X ended up dead for speaking the truth during that time
period.Ask Steve, Angelo, and Jimmy D, long time posters, and they will
tell you I have never put Ali down as a person. People just assume it because I
seem pro Frazier, more so than Ali.I also have never put down Ali as a
boxer. I have always said he is the greatest heavyweight of all time, better
than Frazier.You may be right about Roosevelt knowing that terrible
abuse was going on in the Soviet Union but I would have to do some more research
to verify to myself you are correct. But I think it is entirely possible that
he didn't know the extent of what was happening as we didn't have the instant or
as good of intelligence as we have today but either way, as during world war 2,
during the depression we were in survival mode, hard to push for changes beyond
our borders at that time.We were also, republicans and demecrats alike,
in the insolationist mode. A lot of Americans just wanted to ignore, rightly or
wrongly, what was happening over there during the period leading to World War
2.Nazi Germany declared war on us right after Japan attacked us at Pearl
Harbor. So yes I would have to support military action verses them as declaring