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(10) Mr CASTELLS (Uruguay) (Translation from the Spanish):<br />

Madam President, you asked me if you had answered my question, but you did not give me a chance to<br />

say “yes” or “no”. No, you did not answer my question. I was asking you something else. You said that this would<br />

make for smoother running of the <strong>General</strong> <strong>Conference</strong> in the future, but I was asking about the present situation.<br />

Are we working under threat or pressure at the moment or not? Thank you, Madam President.<br />

11. The PRESIDENT:<br />

The question seems very hard to answer, because everyone knows that the strike is going on, so there is<br />

pressure applied; but we are not deciding this matter because of the pressure. It certainly plays a part in the<br />

proceedings, it would be ridiculous to deny that, but I have not just spoken with the strike leaders or whatever, so<br />

I cannot really answer you in this respect. We are dealing with an issue which I hope we can handle with wisdom<br />

and foresight, and I think that what has been presented to us by New Zealand deals not only with the present<br />

situation, but, what is more important, with the future, so that a situation like this would never arise again. I am<br />

sorry, I cannot give you a better answer, Sir.<br />

12. Sr. CASTELLS (Uruguay):<br />

Gracias señora Presidenta: De su respuesta deduzco por dónde va la cosa, ya que, si no dice<br />

concretamente que no, que no hay amenaza ni coacción alguna, es porque sí las hay. Gracias.<br />

(12) Mr CASTELLS (Uruguay) (Translation from the Spanish):<br />

Thank you, Madam President. I can deduce from your answer how things are going since, if you do not<br />

say outright that we are not under any threat or pressure, that means that we are. Thank you.<br />

13. The PRESIDENT:<br />

I give the floor to the representative of Haiti.<br />

14.1 M. CHARLES (Haïti) :<br />

Merci, Madame la Présidente. Je voudrais tout d'abord présenter toutes nos félicitations à M. Marshall<br />

pour les efforts qu'il a déployés et dont sa proposition de résolution - que nous appuyons sans réserve - est le<br />

fruit.<br />

14.2 Par ailleurs, la délégation d'Haïti n'a pas le sentiment d'agir sous la menace. Certes, nos travaux sont<br />

quelque peu perturbés, mais force est d'admettre qu'une grève, pour avoir un sens, ne peut aller sans un minimum<br />

de perturbations. S'il y avait menace, il n'aurait peut-être pas été possible de tenir une quelconque séance, dans<br />

aucune salle. Le moment est venu, à mon sens, de faire preuve de compréhension. Evitons les débats passionnés,<br />

évitons de parler d'affrontement, de conflit, de menaces. Puisque des accords sont intervenus à l'issue de<br />

consultations, il convient maintenant que nous nous déterminions sereinement, et j'invite tous mes collègues à<br />

appuyer et soutenir la proposition de M. Marshall. Telle est en tout cas la position de ma délégation. Merci,<br />

Madame la Présidente.<br />

15. The PRESIDENT:<br />

Thank you very much. I now call upon the representative of Nigeria.<br />

16.1 Mr LIJADU (Nigeria):<br />

Thank you, very much, Madam President. First I would like to thank New Zealand for this initiative.<br />

And while thanking New Zealand I would like to remind this gathering that in fact yesterday we had a text which<br />

was prepared by the President and for that I want to thank her very much, because part of the wording proposed<br />

by her at that time has been reflected here, so we could perhaps have found a solution earlier than this.<br />

16.2 But coming back to the new text, I absolutely agree with those who spoke before me that in fact we have<br />

here the solution for what we want to do. However, I agree with Mr Rao, the representative of India, on the<br />

amendment to paragraph 3 because failing that we would have had to do something about it. That is the first<br />

point. The second point is that somehow paragraph 6 does not really seem to me to belong here. The sentiment<br />

behind it is perhaps something which should be expressed in a separate statement or resolution coming from the<br />

President of the <strong>General</strong> <strong>Conference</strong> on behalf of all of us. I think that would give it the necessary strength,<br />

because I think it is something that needs to be said, very clearly, without any ambiguity. But that does not mean<br />

that I will not accept the text as it stands if the preponderant feeling of the house is that we can accept it as it is<br />

here.<br />

16.3 Finally, I would like to go along with the President’s statement that what we are doing here is not being<br />

done under duress. We are acquitting ourselves of our duties as responsibly as possible. Flexibly, but in no<br />

circumstances under any threat whatsoever. Anybody who might have the impression that they are threatening the<br />

<strong>General</strong> <strong>Conference</strong>, would have to think again because that is not what we are here for. We are doing our duty<br />

and we will not be dissuaded from that one way or another. Thank you very much.<br />

595<br />

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